Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Aksannyi]

Or they could give someone evidence that they give a shit about their job and actually work at it instead of hoping people are blinded by the fact that they have relic and won't notice the other mediocre shit.

Relic should be the last thing you do in this game, after all of your other shit is taken to the max. Anything less is a waste.

[Jizzle]

Most of the people commenting on this thread have a relic... And all of them are saying that there is no excuse for gimping your other gear so you can get a relic weapon... So why are people without a relic arguing with them? Like Aksa said, a Vulcan's staff isnt even half a silver's worth... So selling it is barely progressing your efforts... Same with NQ behemoth ring (a little over 300k?)... With that, quit defending morons.

[Milkster]

Vawn - Amanomurakumo - Lakshmi

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...3-28-21-53.jpg

Jealous of relic holders like this and that RNG?

[Omnipotent]

I never post against gimp relics, but LOL

[Bishop1]

Or they could give someone evidence that they give a shit about their job and actually work at it instead of hoping people are blinded by the fact that they have relic and won't notice the other mediocre shit.

Relic should be the last thing you do in this game, after all of your other shit is taken to the max. Anything less is a waste.

No only a fool would think like that. A relic is a bigger boost than any +1 items. I see retarded DRKS in speed belt, Dusk Gloves +1, Kraken club and no fucking apoc! That is so fuckin stupid lol. I could never figure out why people have over 100m worth of gear and no relic. They gotta be the most stupid people i have ever seen lol. Sell speed belt get v belt.. 10% haste from relic >1 % haste from gloves, kraken lmao... As long as you have the average gear you should be ok with relic. 5 +1 items will not be better than a relic. As long as you have the NQ you are good. You can always upgrade your gear.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Or they could give someone evidence that they give a shit about their job and actually work at it instead of hoping people are blinded by the fact that they have relic and won't notice the other mediocre shit.

Relic should be the last thing you do in this game, after all of your other shit is taken to the max. Anything less is a waste.

This is completely illogical. As with any piece of equipment in this game, you should be spending time and money on what's going to make the biggest difference first. What you're describing is.. Well, what I can only call reverse-prioritizing.

Now, do I feel that people like Vawn up there are a little bit unacceptable? Yes, of course, but because his equipment is stupid, not mediocre.

[Aksannyi]

Okay you've gotta be trolling, and all I can say is lol.

How can you sit there and say that you should spend 100m on ONE ITEM that is a marginal (at best) improvement? Tons of HQ gear I can get will improve my performance for a lot less gil than upgrading a relic.

[Therin]

No only a fool would think like that. A relic is a bigger boost than any +1 items. I see retarded DRKS in speed belt, Dusk Gloves +1, Kraken club and no fucking apoc! That is so fuckin stupid lol. I could never figure out why people have over 100m worth of gear and no relic. They gotta be the most stupid people i have ever seen lol. Sell speed belt get v belt.. 10% haste from relic >1 % haste from gloves, kraken lmao... As long as you have the average gear you should be ok with relic. 5 +1 items will not be better than a relic. As long as you have the NQ you are good. You can always upgrade your gear.

Your illustration is correct but your general statement is way wrong.

Yes, getting Apoc over Dusk +1/Speed/Kraken is a good idea.

No, getting Aegis over Lamian Kaman +1, Amano over Haubergeon +1, Yoichi over Vulcan's is NOT a good idea.

The difference is that the Dusk/Speed/Kraken are all worth tens of millions of gil whereas the other items are all dirt cheap compared to the relic currency cost.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Point out the logic in your assertion, please.

[Bishop1]

Jealous of relic holders like this and that RNG?

It's pretty sad that he couldnt get the "basic cheap gear" for SAM. This is an example of a GIMP relic holder. The RNG is not that bad. They should put this picture on wiki as how to not do relics. Sam has the be the easiest job to gear in game. This is just a guy that doesn't understand the game.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Your illustration is correct but your general statement is way wrong.

Yes, getting Apoc over Dusk +1/Speed/Kraken is a good idea.

No, getting Aegis over Lamian Kaman +1, Amano over Haubergeon +1, Yoichi over Vulcan's is NOT a good idea.

The difference is that the Dusk/Speed/Kraken are all worth tens of millions of gil whereas the other items are all dirt cheap.

You're being just as nonsensical as she is. I mean, hell, even if what you said made sense, Everything in the former category is going to make a bigger impact than everything in the latter.

You're all just blinded by the idea that a relic-holder should epitomize perfect gameplay, which, again, has no logical basis.

I'm not going to buy a Haubergeon +1 before I buy a Hagun - do you know why? One is going to make a significantly larger difference than the other.

[Correction]

Okay you've gotta be trolling, and all I can say is lol.

How can you sit there and say that you should spend 100m on ONE ITEM that is a marginal (at best) improvement? Tons of HQ gear I can get will improve my performance for a lot less gil than upgrading a relic.

Slow down there, cowboy, doesn't your LS require a relic before applying? Then what's the point of joining if by your standards the relic would the the last piece of your ubergear?

[Tsuko_Asura]

The fact that this discussion stems from a Yoichinoyumi is what's most amusing, what with the fact that it(along with its marksmanship counterpart) makes more of a practical difference than any other weapon in the game.

As far as any longer battle is concerned, a predominantly naked Yoichinoyumi-ranger receiving outside buffs sufficient enough to make their hit-rate and per-shot damage reasonable is going to significantly out perform someone wielding any other manner of ranged weapon, thanks to Namas Arrow.

[Bishop1]

Your illustration is correct but your general statement is way wrong.

Yes, getting Apoc over Dusk +1/Speed/Kraken is a good idea.

No, getting Aegis over Lamian Kaman +1, Amano over Haubergeon +1, Yoichi over Vulcan's is NOT a good idea.

The difference is that the Dusk/Speed/Kraken are all worth tens of millions of gil whereas the other items are all dirt cheap compared to the relic currency cost.

No they are all good ideas. Because a relic will outdo that single +1 spot. You can get the +1 in a week or two. Pretty sure a Aegis today will help you more than a Kaman +1 today. It's only gimp when you look like Vawn and are missing everything. One HQ wont hurt.

[Chen]

Sell speed belt get v belt.

good thing getting v.belt is so easy

I see retarded DRKS in speed belt, Dusk Gloves +1, Kraken club and no fucking apoc!

maybe they got kraken/dusk+1/speed belt which will give them the strongest zerg setup in game? (assuming other gear is up to par) will also pimp their RNG, or any other 75 DD they got. those three items would boost alot of jobs, not everyone likes gimping their other jobs just to have 1 great one

KC RNG v apoc drk would be an interesting contest and the fact that you listed having a KC and no relic as stupid does make you seem rather clueless

[Jizzle]

They require it not only for it's technical effectiveness but for the experience that you would ASSUME comes with obtaining one-- dedication, time, effort: Things a linkshell looks for in its members. That LS is simply looking at a relic as a manifestation of those things. It's absolutely ridiculous to sit there and say you dont get people and that their stupid if they have 100mil and dont have a relic... First of all you act as if you go to the gob, give him 100mil, and poof. Second of all, maybe some people prefer to not spill all their gil into something that isn't sellable- it is a commitment that you cannot go back on when completed. Third, this dismissal of HQ items and +1 is ridiculous... If you use NQ haub on sam youre "only" losing 1 stat of str, dex,acc and att... so hell, fuck it, lets use a ruby ring too... only losing 1 STR as opposed to flame ring... etc... Do you see how once you neglect and not care about a job its only a matter of time until it perpetuates into some of the garbage posted above, namely the ranger and the sam? There is no point in getting a relic if you dont care about the fucking job its used on. In case you havnt noticed bishop, this game is about stacking stats: If you dont use each slot optimally you are a waste of a relic.

[Bishop1]

Okay you've gotta be trolling, and all I can say is lol.

How can you sit there and say that you should spend 100m on ONE ITEM that is a marginal (at best) improvement? Tons of HQ gear I can get will improve my performance for a lot less gil than upgrading a relic.

Do you have a melee job? I really think you don't understand.

[Aksannyi]

Slow down there, cowboy, doesn't your LS require a relic before applying? Then what's the point of joining if by your standards the relic would the the last piece of your ubergear?

No, it doesn't. It doesn't even require king bodies or salvage pieces. But it does require that you're not an idiot about gearing yourself. No one is going to recommend that I upgrade a relic on my 73 WAR that I haven't even begun to complete gearing.

Upgrading a relic is an expensive process. I'd rather be sure I had all of the best gear before starting. The RNG in question is retarded. NQ staff? Christ, having an HQ staff at this point is almost a requirement to play the damn job. It's not that expensive and it's pretty much standard. If you can't even have standard fucking gear before upgrading a relic you should quit before you even start. I'm not talking about 30m pieces of gear here, but shit like this is under a mil, come the fuck on.

[Tsuko_Asura]

What aren't you grasping about ONE STRENGTH? Do you have any idea the effect that has on one's damage, as apposed to, say, nearly completely bypassing the primary limitation of any end-game damage-dealer?

Jesus Christ, this isn't difficult to understand.

[Bishop1]

good thing getting v.belt is so easy



maybe they got kraken/dusk+1/speed belt which will give them the strongest zerg setup in game? (assuming other gear is up to par) will also pimp their RNG.

KC RNG v apoc drk would be an interesting contest and the fact that you listed having a KC and no relic as stupid does make you seem rather clueless

It is easy. KA is like a NM you can DUO or even solo. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be playing the game. You need the strongest zerg gear in the game to kill what? What is there left to zerg that you can't do it without K club? When I had my K club I was like damn this is a waste of gil for 30 seconds of fun every couple of days.

FYI you cant pimp more than 2 melee jobs do to the limit of merits. I rather have 1 great job than 10 good jobs. You can take 10 good jobs and they still wouldn't be better than my 1 great job. So you gimp away greatness to be good.. thats cool.