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  1. #21
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    i thought that they did this in ulduar gear on the ptr? i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but that's what people in my guild were saying the other night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton View Post
    i thought that they did this in ulduar gear on the ptr? i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but that's what people in my guild were saying the other night.
    It's been done repeatedly on live servers since the .ru guild posted their video. So far I've only seen this done with live characters. Why waste time on the PTR running old raid content? :D

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    This will probably be how my guild gets people that drake mount once we get some Ulduar gear. We might try before then, but I think we're all too lazy at this point and it'd require a really specific group to be together and get the buffs for it. We have no DPS warriors for instance and so we'd need to find the right buff stacking for our casters for it to work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    This will probably be how my guild gets people that drake mount once we get some Ulduar gear. We might try before then, but I think we're all too lazy at this point and it'd require a really specific group to be together and get the buffs for it. We have no DPS warriors for instance and so we'd need to find the right buff stacking for our casters for it to work...
    No, really, it's not that hard. Counting the tank, doing it with 15 seconds to spare requires an average of 3900 dps per person between the 8 dps + tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    No, really, it's not that hard. Counting the tank, doing it with 15 seconds to spare requires an average of 3900 dps per person between the 8 dps + tank.
    Yea after we switched up our group abit taking the warlock out for a ret pally and brought 2 dks in instead of ele shammy and fury warrior didnt show up we 2 shot it.
    Very easy

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    Yeah, I'm liking the zerg method of the 10 man a lot more. Tried it the other day and got him down to 40% with a pretty awful group composition, but zerging it should be hella easy as long as you've got 4k+ raid DPS on your 8 DPS.

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    I hope they patch it soon, the fight in its normal form is the only challenging encounter in the game that requires proper setup and coordination. Its a shame its been reduced to DPS stacking.

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    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bigrussta/sart103dzerg.jpg

    Did this tonight. You really have to play like a champion the whole time; one slip up and it's over. Took us about fifteen attempts, I think, but we spent the majority of the day theorycrafting every single aspect to make sure the math was sound. I've no doubt that this will get fixed soon so that when Sartharion hits 25% he'll just AoE pyro the raid if any of the drakes are still up. They've been in no rush to fix the Voidwalker tank though so probably got till 3.1 comes out in a few months.

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    WWS here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    I hope they patch it soon, because I can't do it this way so I'm going to cry about it
    ?

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    what a jokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

    grats russta.

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    eanae dont be retarded.

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    what.. no way russta playing wow again.. THIS IS MADNESS!

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    If they patched away kiting Jedoga Shadowseeker you bet they'll patch this away. Shame, it looks like a pretty quick clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    ?
    That's pretty much how I read it too

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    Hey Russta, what's the loot mod your using?

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    looks like xloot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokku View Post
    That's pretty much how I read it too
    Definitely not the problem, I've done it the normal way a number of times and just find it extremely fun and challenging. This approach just changes the challenge from the coordination aspect to max DPS zerging, which isn't what makes the fight as prestigious as it is currently. The fight isn't Brutallus, its not measured by your min-maxing and raid stacking, its supposed to be measured by how coordinated and non-retarded your group is.

    The sad thing is that the groups that can pulll together this kind of DPS have the DPS to kill it the normal way, unless your healers and tanks are the weakest part of your group. It just feels silly to me now that so many guilds with a strong core of 8+ DPS can't do this the normal way.

    I love Sarth because of the superb design that went into it. With a simple choice, the fight turns from the easiest in the game to the hardest currently, at near Sunwell level. That's just brilliant design and a great jump for Blizzard IMO, and its sad to see it just reduced to a zerg. Just my 2c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    Definitely not the problem, I've done it the normal way a number of times and just find it extremely fun and challenging. This approach just changes the challenge from the coordination aspect to max DPS zerging, which isn't what makes the fight as prestigious as it is currently. The fight isn't Brutallus, its not measured by your min-maxing and raid stacking, its supposed to be measured by how coordinated and non-retarded your group is.

    The sad thing is that the groups that can pulll together this kind of DPS have the DPS to kill it the normal way, unless your healers and tanks are the weakest part of your group. It just feels silly to me now that so many guilds with a strong core of 8+ DPS can't do this the normal way.

    I love Sarth because of the superb design that went into it. With a simple choice, the fight turns from the easiest in the game to the hardest currently, at near Sunwell level. That's just brilliant design and a great jump for Blizzard IMO, and its sad to see it just reduced to a zerg. Just my 2c.

    The problem is that it's a 10 man fight, and it flat out can not be done in 10 man gear otherwise, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    The problem is that it's a 10 man fight, and it flat out can not be done in 10 man gear otherwise, period.
    This.

    My guild is the only 10man only guild that has even gotten 2drakes down on normal mode. And that's because the better of us pug 25's and have some BIS gear.

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    The sad part is this will get patched simply because players bested Blizzard's design, using no exploits whatsoever (that I can think of?). It's just fast DPS and awesome healing with no mistakes.

    There are fights that get patched because of arguable exploits, use of terrain that Blizzard didn't anticipate, etc, but to patch this would just be retarded.

    By the way, the 3.1 isn't a couple months away, it's about 8 days away. 24 hours if we're lucky, but doubtful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizerd View Post
    The sad part is this will get patched simply because players bested Blizzard's design, using no exploits whatsoever (that I can think of?). It's just fast DPS and awesome healing with no mistakes.

    There are fights that get patched because of arguable exploits, use of terrain that Blizzard didn't anticipate, etc, but to patch this would just be retarded.

    By the way, the 3.1 isn't a couple months away, it's about 8 days away. 24 hours if we're lucky, but doubtful.
    It's not 24 hours. It's 8 or 15 days. We should know which tomorrow or Wed tho.

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