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  1. #261
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    True 6-hit for DRG is dumb, as in, not worth sacrificing haste for.

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    What haste will you lose on DRG to get a 6 hit?

  3. #263
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    +1 af (or was it relic idk) duh!

  4. #264
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    Ya, Wyrm Mail +1. You just have to WS in Chivalrous Chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    True 6-hit for DRG is dumb, as in, not worth sacrificing haste for.
    A "True 6 hit" maybe but aside not having 6-hit after accounting for multihit ws is retard, you have to be trolling cause this is the stupidest post I have ever seen, are you seriously saying 2% haste is better than a 6-hit for drg, just wow...
    2% haste isn't going to beat 16% increase in ws rate, 12 att, 5 str, and 2% DA[assuming askar and not aurum for acc] even in high haste for meriting, Aurum or Askar is easily better for meriting really, or anything for that matter.

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    Whoa there Johnny, hold your horses. Yes, I'm saying "True 6-hit" and not "6-hit". I already said you have to swap in Chivalrous chain during WS. You could've deduced from there that I do not advocate 7-hits on weapons with 492 delay, since it'd be a loss. Let me elaborate, I was being a bit simple.

    If you swap in 1 extra STP during WS (Chivalrous would be dumb now that I think of it, just WS in askar or aurum which are great WS pieces to begin with) you need to land 4 Drakesbane hits. If you don't manage to, you could macro in askar or aurum for a single swing, perhaps 2, and then switch back and reap the benefits of the extra haste. If such micromanagement isn't for you, you could at least swap in aurum/askar after a non-full Drakesbane (the odds of which, at capped hitrate, is less than 20%). This, by the way, is only if you don't expect to have a Jump or Meditate timer up in the course of getting to the next 100% (assuming a Jump of yours gives at least 2 more TP). So yes, if you're lucky enough to have a Mail+1, properly use it or quit the job.

  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    A "True 6 hit" maybe but aside not having 6-hit after accounting for multihit ws is retard
    A "true 6 hit" doesn't account for multi hit WS, so what was the point in that post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killkenny View Post
    A "true 6 hit" doesn't account for multi hit WS, so what was the point in that post?
    I meant so that haste might worth it over "true 6 hit" but not 6 hit in general, and at shiryuu that makes exping way too complex for me anyways got enough random macros on drg already and feather tickle fucks it, though else maybe usefully.

  9. #269
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    Then, if it's too complicated, perhaps you shouldn't play a DD job.

    Feather Tickle means you have hate, go get hit once and it's even.

  10. #270
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Then, if it's too complicated, perhaps you shouldn't play a DD job.
    if I had relic on drg and the body this would be something to consider for some stuff, however at present I have neither, cause in most things I do on drg the 6 acc 21 att off aurum would be better.

  11. #271
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    Well this originally was about a Gungnir DRG. Situationally, even without one, Wyrm Mail +1 will be a superior option, though. Perhaps not in as many situations as with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Feather Tickle means you have hate, go get hit once and it's even.
    yes but I tend to seigan/TE not hasso so wouldn't even out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Ya, Wyrm Mail +1. You just have to WS in Chivalrous Chain.
    That and the mob can move out the way, which would cost you TP.

  14. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    Well this originally was about a Gungnir DRG.
    I'm pretty sure this is originally about Cuchulain's Mantle. Nice derail, though. Needs more boobs.

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    ( . )( . )

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    Right now I TP in 364 Accuracy - when Focus is up it's 394 - this is without any sort of food.

    The most obvious upgrade that comes to mind is getting a Black Tathlum. I've also long wanted a Divisor Ring - which would allow me to possibly sell my Toreador and put it towards something like a Tathlum (gain of 1 DEX, 7 Attack, 3 Accuracy).

    My back slot is probably the toughest debate. At my current accuracy, is it worth wearing Cuchulain's over Amemet +1?

  17. #277
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    You sure you counted your acc correctly? I'm getting 378 in that build (give or take a few points of acc based on your race, I went based on hume) and my build (on the left, swap merman for minuet) has 388 acc.

    With your current build you stand at just under 80% acc on 82 lolbri. I'd use cuch mantle to bring that up to 83.3 and swap to am+1 for focus which would leave you at 94 and some change% acc

  18. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    You sure you counted your acc correctly? I'm getting 378 in that build (give or take a few points of acc based on your race, I went based on hume) and my build (on the left, swap merman for minuet) has 388 acc.

    With your current build you stand at just under 80% acc on 82 lolbri. I'd use cuch mantle to bring that up to 83.3 and swap to am+1 for focus which would leave you at 94 and some change% acc
    I just trusted the site's calculation, but realized I forgot to factor in merits.

    Accuracy from H2H Skill: 289 (299 skill w/ Faith Torque)
    Accuracy from base DEX: 35
    Accuracy from equipment: 47
    Accuracy from equip DEX: 6.5

    = 377.5 (so the site is wrong)

  19. #279
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    With that website: are merits not assumed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulun View Post
    With that website: are merits not assumed?
    Yeah I doesn't seem to account for merits.

    Veg look at the randomer question thread

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