Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Brotherhood

**Caiyuo** · 2010-05-02 23:14

Originally Posted by Parshias

Animated musclebros.

^ so great. Between AYE MA'AM and COURAGE INCREASED 100-FOLD /sparklesparkle I was grinning through like 90% of that episode.

"King Brattorey" naturally has to come and spoil the show when things were looking up! Pretty excited to see that and the Greed fight.

**Seanr** · 2010-05-03 00:37

Originally Posted by Caiyuo

^ so great. Between AYE MA'AM and COURAGE INCREASED 100-FOLD /sparklesparkle I was grinning through like 90% of that episode.
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^ Seconded...

Also.. FMA Does suspense so fuckin well it is annoying... I have to wait a whole 7 days to see more ?! /cry

**Tulun** · 2010-05-03 02:22

The immortality of homunculi isn't fully clear; Greed (1st version) seemed to be interested in Al because he had an immortal body. So it might imply that, though long lived, even homunculi's bodies will give out (or maybe he was just worried about being vulnerable, since his body was still 'human').
They didn't seem to get much into the ages of the homunculi, though they implied that Envy, Lust, Gluttony and Greed (v1) were hundreds of years old (I think Greed had left central over a hundred years before he was recaptured). No specific mention of Sloth. Pride was the first, so obviously he's older than the other 6.

There's also the whole King Bradley thing... they didn't really explain why he aged normally, unless my memory has failed me. It seems like Greed (ver 1) had possessed hosts in the same way he did Linn, and it looked like Wrath underwent the same process.

At any rate, I will agree... the anime is really doing this arc justice. I doubt it will disappoint.

**Zilong** · 2010-05-03 02:43

Originally Posted by Seanr

you mean how he came to be fuhrer and all? They showed that.

No, how he kicked ass as the motherfucking Bradley in his prime

I mean during all his fight, he always complained about how his aging body is preventing him from doing shit he could have done in his youth.

Bradley aged normally because he's using a human vessel, probably for his sleeper agent role in Central as the face of Amestris.

Father can just regrow homunculus without human vessel, Gluttony's recreation show that on the arc where Lin get turned into Greed

**fantasticdan** · 2010-05-03 03:22

Originally Posted by Zilong

Bradley aged normally because he's using a human vessel, probably for his sleeper agent role in Central as the face of Amestris.

Greed uses human vessels as well, and he didn't age. Some manga spoilers in the following:

Spoiler: show

**Seanr** · 2010-05-03 09:51

Originally Posted by fantasticdan

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nah, they showed a episode with backstory in which they had hundreds of young men who they were training to be fuhrer, and they tried to insert a stone in to each of the eligible candidates. Each one, other than "Bradley", died because the stone tried to take over or something like that....

I looked it up, it was Episode 26: Reunion

**Pharaun** · 2010-05-03 09:58

Another amazing episode, I absolutely loved Sig/Alex teaming up to take Sloth down, been looking forward to that scene for a long time. I know it gets said every week, but this manga/anime always manages to make each episode/chapter so damn epic, I really wish that other manga authors would take a look at this and see how you write a gripping, compelling story with characters that people actually care about.

**fantasticdan** · 2010-05-03 11:07

Originally Posted by Seanr

nah, they showed a episode with backstory in which they had hundreds of young men who they were training to be fuhrer, and they tried to insert a stone in to each of the eligible candidates. Each one, other than "Bradley", died because the stone tried to take over or something like that....

I looked it up, it was Episode 26: Reunion

Bradley says IN THAT EPISODE that he only ended up with one soul, after the stone was injected into him. Something about the souls fighting/rejecting each other something something.

Spoiler: show

**Serra** · 2010-05-03 11:30

Greed didn't use a human vessel till Ling (I believe). The manga never suggest that his first form started as a human.

Purely speculating on evidence too, but almost all the 'normal' homunculus have those red lines and circles on them. Wrath doesn't, and neither does Greed after he fuses with Lin, so take that for what it's worth. Of course, big problem being that Pride doesn't appear to either, so maybe it means nothing.

**fantasticdan** · 2010-05-03 11:59

Pride isn't a good example because

Spoiler: show

The reason I assumed Greed used human vessels before Greed-Ling was because of those those "Which Greed?!?!" conversations that seemed to imply there were previous Greeds before the first one we see, but I was probably just reading too much into it.

I imagine Greed-Ling wouldn't age thou for the same reason Hohenheim doesn't.

**Delayed** · 2010-05-03 12:12

envy had one on his leg i think.

**DionyShiva** · 2010-05-03 12:18

Originally Posted by Delayed

wrath had one on his leg i think.

Spoiler: show

**fantasticdan** · 2010-05-03 12:23

On the topic of the red circles/lines, Greed-Ling has them as well apparently, manga spoiler:

Spoiler: show

**Tulun** · 2010-05-03 12:24

It definitely implies that Greed has had more than one host. In the conversion process, Greed comments as such (No one has ever excepted me).
It is unclear if Ling has immortality like the old Greed, but if he is like the old Greed he shouldn't age anymore.

Delayed, you are mixing Pride and Wrath up (Wrath is King Bradley).

**Kaylia** · 2010-05-03 12:36

Wrath was the first human based humonculus, so it's safe to assume the previous Greeds werent human based humonculus.

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**Seanr** · 2010-05-03 12:38

Lin/Greeds Oroboros symbol is on his hand, he's shown it a few times...
And they switched up who was "Wrath" in the First Anime vs the Manga/Second Anime I can see how it gets confusing.

I had to re-read it myself for clarification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ters#Homunculi

**Tulun** · 2010-05-03 12:47

Originally Posted by Kaylia

Wrath was the first human based humonculus, so it's safe to assume the previous Greeds werent human based humonculus.

Do they say that during the Wrath explanation? The comic you showed said they would complete a human homunculus, not that it was a relatively new idea (So not definitive).
It's not that important really, though sort of interesting.

**fantasticdan** · 2010-05-03 12:49

Originally Posted by Kaylia

Wrath was the first human based humonculus, so it's safe to assume the previous Greeds werent human based humonculus.

Spoiler: show

I don't see how that implies Wrath was the first human based homunculus at all.

**DionyShiva** · 2010-05-03 12:55

Spoiler: show

**fantasticdan** · 2010-05-03 13:08

Originally Posted by DionyShiva

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The only thing that implies is that he is the only homunculus which ages, which makes sense considering

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Hohenheim is basically a human based homunculus, and he doesn't age. Probably because he has a shit load of souls to regenerate himself with, where as Bradley does not.

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