Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Brotherhood

[Katlan]

The anime follows the manga pretty closely, no? Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything by not following the manga D:

[GarraMcOwnage]

Yeah this FMA series is really close to the manga. The Mangas always worth a rread though

[Scythiroth]

The anime follows the manga pretty closely, no? Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything by not following the manga D:

If you didn't watch the first anime, you might have missed some things near the beginning of the series. FMA: Brotherhood kind of rushed through early story parts because they were already covered in the previous anime. Nothing too important though.

[Hitoshura]

Seeing what I read today animooted is also going to be hard to watch, fucking FMA.

[Athas]

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Lingreed's never really gone full body, except once in a little bit. Maybe it slows him down? simple answer is, from an artistic point of view, seeing Lin's face is better. Carbon face doesn't exactly show specific emotions all that great.

Ok but even if it slowed him down - which it didn't seems to when he fought Edward - if he went full body, Wrath wouldn't be able to hurt him at all.

[Zilong]

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he did went into full greed mode after going berserk to hold the main gate. I always thought that Lin/Greed never went full greed mode because it represent Lin's presence in the body that doesn't allow for Greed's complete control.

Or it could just be harder for him to do full body armor since the original greed was true homunculus while Lin is human based.

But I'm just gonna go with both Greed and Lin not liking to look like a complete monster during the full body armor form. Beside, the full armor isn't without its weakness, since those node around his shoulder on full armor mode being penetrated was how the original Greed become subdued by Bradley in the first place

[Tetrarien]

About Greed/Lin:

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If I remember correctly, the original Greed explained it (or Ed figured it out) as a trade off between the full armor and homunculus healing. When unarmored Greed can still heal from his injuries like the other homunculi. When using his full armor, however, his homunculus healing is hindered severely.

[detlef]

About Greed/Lin:

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If I remember correctly, the original Greed explained it (or Ed figured it out) as a trade off between the full armor and homunculus healing. When unarmored Greed can still heal from his injuries like the other homunculi. When using his full armor, however, his homunculus healing is hindered severely.

This invites the question... Why not enter battle fully-buffed?

[Zilong]

one sided fight aren't too much fun to watch

unless it involves lots and lots of fire

[DionyShiva]

I don't think his hardening actually slows down his regeneration. What Ed figured out was that Greed can't harden and regenerate at the same time, though any existing armor is left intact, e.g. he can't make NEW armor while he's regenerating. So this still leaves the question of why Greed doesn't just start the fight fully armored. He probably just doesn't like the way he looks.

Source:
http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/29/34/

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But I'm just gonna go with both Greed and Lin not liking to look like a complete monster during the full body armor form. Beside, the full armor isn't without its weakness, since those node around his shoulder on full armor mode being penetrated was how the original Greed become subdued by Bradley in the first place

Greed wasn't armored at all when Bradley stabbed him in the four nodes, so we don't really know if his full armor has any weaknesses.

[Souj]

like I said earlier, there is probably not a real reason why he is not always fully armored, other than for aesthetic reasons, maybe from Greed's point of view, but most definitely from the author's. Armored Greed's face doesn't convey much emotion.

I still like the idea that the full armor lessens flexibility, which is a big part of Ling's fighting style. But that's something I more or less just made up because there's no basis for that thought anywhere in the manga.

[arus2001]

Could also be something more generic like using the armor saps his stone supply. Maybe not as quickly as a death, but over time heavy reliance would do him in.

[Gulkeeva]

Well from what I remember.. when he fought with the full body armor on he couldn't keep up well with Edward . Notice he was actually being hit in various places.

Considering the speed of bradely.. he probably can't "keep up" with that speed being in a full body set.. so he only solidify's his hands(to attack)/parts to protect. (notice he can actually dodge bradely that has attacks much faster then what edward could ever do)

I mean the guy can cut through a building etc with a sword... that body armor probably can't take too many blows constantly from bradley since he'd just be a sitting target for him in a full body suit where he can't move very fast.

[DionyShiva]

Ed was damaging Greed because he figured out how his shield worked, and could use alchemy to destroy it. Bradley's swords are all absolutely useless against Greed's shield.

[dejet]

It may not be said, but by the looks it must have to do something with the new greed/lin. As he went it much faster I think with old greed and used it more?

That or just to make him not seem stronger then the bad ass Wrath. ~_~ hate looking to much into stuff like this, makes me feel like I am lessening it by finding plot holes

[fantasticdan]

Could also be something more generic like using the armor saps his stone supply. Maybe not as quickly as a death, but over time heavy reliance would do him in.

It could make sense that converting to/from the armor would use up some stone power, but just sitting around in armor form shouldn't if Ed's explanation of how it worked was correct

Well from what I remember.. when he fought with the full body armor on he couldn't keep up well with Edward . Notice he was actually being hit in various places.

Considering the speed of bradely.. he probably can't "keep up" with that speed being in a full body set.. so he only solidify's his hands(to attack)/parts to protect. (notice he can actually dodge bradely that has attacks much faster then what edward could ever do)

Greed was getting hit/beat up by Ed before he put on the armor as well, and couldn't dodge/block a single hit from Bradley at that time either, with or without armor. I think you can chalk this up to the old Greed just sucking ass, and having no martial arts skills/crazy reflexes from Ling.

I don't think there was ever any implication that the armor slowed him down, just that he thought it was ugly. If you look at this show asking why didn't X character do Y during Z fight...very few of the fights make all that much sense. Ed especially, there are a ton of situations where alchemy he's done in the past could help/solve a current problem, but he doesn't bust it out because it isn't convenient for the plot.

[Gulkeeva]

Ed was damaging Greed because he figured out how his shield worked, and could use alchemy to destroy it. Bradley's swords are all absolutely useless against Greed's shield.

Greed was getting hit/beat up by Ed before he put on the armor as well, and couldn't dodge/block a single hit from Bradley at that time either, with or without armor. I think you can chalk this up to the old Greed just sucking ass, and having no martial arts skills/crazy reflexes from Ling.

Semi replying to both!

old greed = homonculus body = slow (slowed him more to use full body)
Current greed = martial arts expert body = faster then old greed
Full body would slow him to where he may not be able to dodge the attacks

Thats how I see it anyway!

[fantasticdan]

Semi replying to both!

old greed = homonculus body = slow (slowed him more to use full body)
Current greed = martial arts expert body = faster then old greed
Full body would slow him to where he may not be able to dodge the attacks

Thats how I see it anyway!

There's absolutely nothing hinting at either of those, but ok.

[Gulkeeva]

Greed (Full Body transform)
Can barely dodge the kid even though he "knows" it will be bad if he gets hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXd7-doNcW8


Greed easily dodging spear attacks (not full transform) around 3:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EY5cD-ZkJw

Greed semi sort of dodging Wrath/Bradely (not full transform) for a few seconds anyway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0VE95Q9-FU

Ling = martial arts body most likely the boost greed needed in reflexs to dodge Wrath alot better unlike his first encounter. (as mentioned before)
http://fma.wikia.com/wiki/Ling_Yao

Little is known about Ling's past. He is the heir to his clan and as such, was constantly the target of assassination attempts. Because of this, he has learned to 'fight dirty'. Although Ling is untrained in alkhestry, he has significant martial arts and sword training

[Xanthe]

Greed (Full Body transform)
Can barely dodge the kid even though he "knows" it will be bad if he gets hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXd7-doNcW8

Probably not the best example since it's from the original FMA anime at a point well beyond where it followed the manga.