DNC @ events

[deiopea]

It has latent effect: still asked by LS to show up as a different job.

Actually, he goes to events as DNC maybe 90% of the time. Other 10% he's either NIN or RDM -- if we're really short on members.

[DAKPluto]

I'm interested how you utilize DNC at events.

Not critiquing, I'm actually interested in how it works and what it does.

[Sho]

I'm interested how you utilize DNC at events.

Not critiquing, I'm actually interested in how it works and what it does.

I'd assume No Foot Rise -> Stutter Step while turned around, so as to not give mobs TP. Just a guess, however.

[Toth]

On most any mob, DNC can keep up steps and samba with ease thanks to NFR and Saber Dance. Our DD and WS damage is actually impressive if people actually look at the job first hand and based not on predispositions. Of course, the higher the mob, the worse we perform, but that's true for most DDs regardless.

[TummieGaruda]

I'm interested how you utilize DNC at events.

Not critiquing, I'm actually interested in how it works and what it does.

Again, "Augments Steps" adds 1 finishing move to steps. So instead of gaining two Finishing moves which is the norm, you gain a total of three. Something we've known about for months.

What is the bonus of having 3 FM instead of 2?
Returns 48% TP with Reverse Flourish after 1 Step (5/5 Merits) instead of 36%
Grants Crit/Attack/Acc bonus with one step (3FM) instead of just Accuracy and Attack (2FM)
Allows you to hit the cap of 5 stored FM's with two steps instead of three

[Tortalius]

Allows a use of Desperate/Violent flourish without impacting your FM count.

[Tekki]

^ Topic, posts moved from relic thread

[Cream Soda]

On most any mob, DNC can keep up steps and samba with ease thanks to NFR and Saber Dance. Our DD and WS damage is actually impressive if people actually look at the job first hand and based not on predispositions. Of course, the higher the mob, the worse we perform, but that's true for most DDs regardless.

Yea, was nice to see you attempting to DD and letting me die when you had 120+ tp in limbus Saturday >.>. I told Percy to just make you come Cor from now on >.>

[Toth]

You mean the two times you died when your HP went from full to 0 almost instantly because your shadows dropped and you got unlucky with some nasty TP moves? Didn't see the RDM or WHM save you either there. If you are going to be insulting, at least be accurate.

[Cream Soda]

Instant? If you checked the log the highest I got hit for was 300 by the mandies, including ws dmg. Surely was not instant and I sure as hell didn't see you tossing out any waltz until AFTER something was said about it. Until then you were trying to DD, and parsing in last in the process. The only way it could have been instant is if I was being idled in 900 or lower hp at that time of the "instant" death.

Edit: And while I didn't notice the whm or the rdm's mp when I died(May have been high, may have been low), I sure did notice you having over 100 tp >.>

[Raineer]

It's like you could substitute RDM for DNC and it'd be the same argument I've seen for years...

/tear

[Toth]

Anyway, ignoring the troll,

It is certainly much easier to gain TP now for DNCs than ever before with our improved abilities. Makes Campaign and soloing a cinch.

[Cream Soda]

Doesn't make you any better in limbus. I'm not saying a good dnc would be bad there, just you.

[Falisa]

How about we leave the personal attacks and arguments out of this discussion?

[Drunknmunky]

Yea, was nice to see you attempting to DD and letting me die when you had 120+ tp in limbus Saturday >.>. I told Percy to just make you come Cor from now on >.>

I have couple of questions for you because I am trying to understand why in god’s earth you depend on a dancer to save your life.

How many healers did you have that day since you stated that you have died twice?

Did you have any paladin in your party or in the alliance at all?

Anyway, I am a paladin and when I'm not main tanking on every event I always cast a cure 3 or 4 to any DD who is in trouble regardless if the mages have full mp.

In all honesty, I have never depended on a dancer to save my life and I will never will. Apparently, some fools believe in dancers saving others.

Returning to the dancer topic:

The only benefits I seen so far on bring in a dancer to most of the events is that they have the ability to lower a monster evasion, defense and lowering the monsters magic resistance.

I personally enjoy having our dancer come to events especially when they able lower Kitty (Byakko) evasion down and it is even sweeter when our two main thieves use their feint ability every two minutes.

In addition, we do not keep our thieves in the party full time we only bring them back to the party or alliance when their ability is up, and when they have 100% TP after popping four sleeping pots. Man god to love the Opo-opo necklace.

When two of our thieves are in the party or in the alliance full time, we are always using collaborator or accomplice on our mages. I personally prefer to trick attack and weapon skill after I use collaborator or accomplice. Others might have different preference.

[Cream Soda]

"I have couple of questions for you because I am trying to understand why in god’s earth you depend on a dancer to save your life."

I'm not, which is my point of asking the ls leader to make him come something else. If he's not curing, he should be on another job. His DD was pretty shitty and was the lowest of all there.

"How many healers did you have that day since you stated that you have died
twice?"
Not sure what we all had, but there were 8 of us? wasn't a big group, did split run

"Did you have any paladin in your party or in the alliance at all?"
Negative

"In all honesty, I have never depended on a dancer to save my life and I will never will. Apparently, some fools believe in dancers saving others."
Me neither, but my point is that if you're coming DNC, you should be throwing some heals and he did not throw out a SINGLE one until after somebody died. If you want to come purely to DD, then change to a DD. That was my point.

[Drunknmunky]

Not sure what we all had, but there were 8 of us? wasn't a big group, did split run.

In that case, I would have gotten ape shit on his ass too. Sorry you had a lazy and a dumb dancer in your low man group.

[Kaludneisucks]

not too sure what is going on here.. you seem to not need post count to get into advanced.. shouldnt you guys resolve this in your LS channel not game wide forums?

[Drunknmunky]

not too sure what is going on here.. you seem to not need post count to get into advanced.. shouldnt you guys resolve this in your LS channel not game wide forums?

How about we leave the personal attacks and arguments out of this discussion?

If you did not notice the issue was point out by a moderator couple of post ago. Unless you have reading issues then I’ am sorry to hear that.

[Kylewhataru]

/popcorn