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    Quote Originally Posted by BrillCS View Post
    Also to my knowledge Luttrell was never "caught and tortured" by anyone, so I'm not sure where Glenn Beck is getting his information from. His team was killed and he was wounded, he managed to elude capture. A small village cared for him until he was reunited with the allied forces.
    The same place he usually gets his information, right out of his ass. It's no surprise that Beck exaggerated and probably downright fabricated parts of the quoted story to make things sound better for his show. It's pathetic, and it shows a lack of respect for the guy involved who really deserves it. Thanks to everyone who's posting the real story.

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    Thats some damn strong will power especially for someone who is still recovering from coming back home. At first, I thought he should've blown their legs but what those kids said to him and he said back was even sweeter XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco View Post
    How is not killing someone heroic? Does that make me a hero?
    So here's the deal. You've just been placed in hostile territory in the middle of a war. Some locals blow your cover. Kill them, and get on with the mission, or let them go, knowing you will probably die when they alert enemy forces to your position?

    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco View Post
    Not trying to take away what happened to him, his team, or what he has sacrificed for this country.
    The veneer of your earlier statement is wearing thin. Here's a more forthright response than I gave earlier, when I missed the forest for the trees, from Plow:

    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    The fact that you can read a story about a guy that's been through what this dude has, and still has such a sense of humanity and ability to forgive and from it gather "lol how's this dude a hero?" makes me want to sit in a corner and cry.

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    When I first started reading and saw Glenn Beck's name I lol'd thinking to myself why would anyone think Glenn Beck is an American hero?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Araelus View Post
    So here's the deal. You've just been placed in hostile territory in the middle of a war. Some locals blow your cover. Kill them, and get on with the mission, or let them go, knowing you will probably die when they alert enemy forces to your position?
    I was referring to the assholes who killed the dog.

    And besides, from what I read on his wiki entry it sounds like he didn't have a choice on whether or not he wanted to kill the Afghani herders.

    edit: And again, everything I said regarding his heroism was based off of Glenn Beck's stupid rant. So fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    lol, the hell are you talking about? you can shoot two fleeing guys in the back who were leaving your neighbors house.
    You expect Devek to ever read facts? remember he's got family in the police force and worked at the DA's office so obviously he's the person to go to for interpatations of any state law.

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    are people really trying to argue that a dude who got tortured by the taliban defending our country is not a hero? a guy who for the rest of his life will be screwed up mentally, emotionally, and possibly physically? a guy who gave up every chance at any sort of a normal life in order to do what he thought was necessary to keep the free world free?

    I'm completely liberal, hate the war on terror, think it's bullshit on every level, and I still think the motherfucker is a hero. it doesn't matter whether I agree with him and what he did by joining the SEALS or not, I can recognize that his behavior is heroic. jesus christ some people are assholes.

    hopefully those guys who shot his dog will get raped daily in jail. they deserve to get their asses DP'd by big black cocks until they shit blood for days.

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    Shoulda' got the SEALfag first.


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    Yuri read above. The guy was never caught and tortured by anyone. He was wounded and managed to evade getting caught. A friendly Afghan village cared for him until the US was able to make it to him six days later. Glenn Beck is a douchebag who has consistently made things up in his programs, though most aren't so blatantly incorrect as this one is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    tortured hero
    But apparently he was never tortured nor captured. Unless wiki lies. But wiki never lies.

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    Given the choice to believe Wiki or Glenn Beck, I'll take the Wiki every single time lol.

    Also, independent confirmation of what is on the Wiki.
    http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=30412
    From Naval Special Warfare Command

    LITTLETON, Colo. (NNS) -- Gunner’s Mate 2nd Class (SEAL) Danny P. Dietz was honored July 4, by his hometown of Littleton, Colo., with the dedication of a larger-than-life bronze statue in a park near his childhood family home. Dietz was killed by enemy forces during a combat mission in Afghanistan on June 28, 2005, as part of Operation Red Wing.

    The dedication ceremony speakers included the Secretary of the Navy, The Honorable Donald C. Winter; Commander, Naval Special Warfare Command, Rear Admiral Joseph Kernan; United States Congressman Tom Tancredo; Medal of Honor recipient, Petty Officer (SEAL) Mike Thornton; and Mrs. Tiffany Bitz, Dietz' sister. The master of ceremonies was Littleton Mayor Jim Taylor.

    "(Danny)…leaves behind a legacy that inspires us today and serves as a shining example of heroism and courage for future generations," said Secretary Winter during his remarks. "Years from now, people will look upon this statue and be reminded of the heroism of a son of Colorado whose country he was proud to serve."

    An estimated three thousand people crowded into the new park to honor Dietz under a warm morning sun which raised temperatures to a near 90 degrees, but even the heat could not deter the people of Littleton.

    "I am so proud of the people of Littleton for the way they have supported the Dietz family and this sculpture," said Taylor.

    Through private donations, the people of Littleton raised more the $42,000 to pay for the sculpture while the city provided the land and surrounding landscaping.

    "As a boy, Danny used to play right here in this neighborhood," said Cindy Dietz, Danny's mother. "When people come down to this park, I want them to remember Danny and all our service men and women who give so much and ask so little. I hope his statue reminds people of the sacrifices our military makes everyday."

    The bronze 1.3:1 scale statue of the Heritage High School graduate was cast at a foundry in Loveland, Colo., by sculptor Robert Henderson. The statue is based on one of the last photos taken of Dietz just before his fatal mission, showing him in a crouched position, dressed in full combat gear and holding his M-4 rifle on one knee.

    "Petty Officer Dietz gave his life selflessly serving our Nation. On behalf of the United States Navy SEALs, we are proud to call him brother and will forever honor his warrior spirit and sacrifice." said Kernan. "This statue is more than a tribute to one man, it is a lasting reminder of the honor, courage and commitment Danny and all of his teammates embody."

    Dietz was born on Jan 26 1980 in Aurora, Colo. He enlisted in the Navy in 1999, earned his SEAL trident in 2001 and was subsequently assigned to SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team Two. In April 2005, Dietz deployed with his Special Reconnaissance element to Afghanistan to support Naval Special Warfare Squadron TEN and the prosecution of the Global War on Terrorism.

    In June 2005, deep behind enemy lines east of Asadabad in the Hindu Kush of Afghanistan, his four-man Navy SEAL team was conducting a reconnaissance mission at the unforgiving altitude of approximately 10,000 feet. These SEALs, LT Michael Murphy, Petty Officer Matthew Axelson, Petty Officer Marcus Luttrell and Dietz, had a vital task. Their mission objective was to capture or kill a key militia leader. The mission was compromised when they were spotted by anti-coalition sympathizers, who reported their presence and location to the Taliban.

    A fierce gun battle erupted between the four SEALs and a much larger enemy force of anti-coalition militia. The enemy had the SEALs outnumbered. They also had terrain advantage. They launched a well-organized, three-sided attack on the SEALs. Three of the four SEALs were wounded. The fight relentlessly continued as the overwhelming militia forced them deeper into a ravine.

    Approximately 45 minutes into the fight, Murphy, the officer in charge of the element, made contact with the Quick Reaction Force in Bagram Air Base for fire support and assistance. An MH-47 Chinook helicopter, with eight additional SEALs and eight Army NightStalkers aboard, was sent in as part of an extraction mission to pull out the four embattled SEALs. The MH-47 was escorted by heavily-armored, Army attack helicopters. As the Chinook raced to the battle, a rocket-propelled grenade struck the helicopter, killing all 16 men aboard.

    Despite this terrible loss, the four SEALs remaining on the ground continued to fight. Under a withering assault of machine gunfire and rocket propelled grenades, the SEALs maneuvered for position and fought for the lives of their teammates. Their heroic actions cost three of them their lives and Luttrell was blasted unconscious down into a ravine by a rocket propelled grenade. Luttrell regained consciousness and was able to evade the enemy, befriended by a local villager and recovered by American forces a few days later.

    This was the worst single-day U.S Forces death toll since Operation Enduring Freedom began over five years ago. It was the single largest loss of life for Naval Special Warfare since the World War II Normandy invasion.

    Dietz was awarded the Navy Cross for "extraordinary heroism in actions against the enemy."

    According to the award citation, "Operating in the middle of an enemy controlled area, in extremely rugged terrain…Petty Officer Dietz fought valiantly against a numerically superior and positionally advantaged enemy force… defending his teammates and himself in a harrowing gunfight, until he was mortally wounded."

    Dietz's wife, Maria Dietz, accepted the posthumously awarded Navy Cross from the Navy Secretary during a ceremony in Washington, D.C., in September 2006. The Navy Cross is second only to the Congressional Medal of Honor in terms of military award precedence.

    U.S. Navy SEALS are the maritime component of U.S. Special Operations Command and the Navy’s special operations force. The SEALs take their name from the elements in which they operate – sea, air and land. In addition to being experts in special reconnaissance and direct action missions -- the key skill sets needed to combat terrorism – their unique stealth and clandestine methods of operation enable them to conduct multiple missions against enemy forces, ashore or afloat, that larger forces cannot approach undetected.

    For more news from around the fleet, visit www.navy.mil.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrillCS View Post
    Yuri read above. The guy was never caught and tortured by anyone. He was wounded and managed to evade getting caught. A friendly Afghan village cared for him until the US was able to make it to him six days later. Glenn Beck is a douchebag who has consistently made things up in his programs, though most aren't so blatantly incorrect as this one is.
    I agree Glenn Beck is a douchebag, and it bothers me that such topics reach national news. "Really? Someone's dog died? Fucking stop everything! We need to report on this now!"

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    Well that's what I get for not reading the whole thread and skipping straight to the outrage. My bad.

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    Well I agree that a dog isn't exactly a front page type of story. But the story itself is definitely a sad one. I mean the guy named the dog after his fallen teammates. And then in a shockingly sad and and utterly pathetic move by a couple of retarded kids, the guy experiences even more loss. Which kind of drove him over the edge a little I think, hence the car chase through multiple counties before he forced these fuckstains off the road.

    Though I don't really consider Glenn Beck as "national news" considers he fabricates quite a bit on his show. But the fact still remains that it is a sad story.

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    I stopped reading as soon as it said "Glenn Beck" tbh

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    i hope all of these guys get attacked and killed by dogs like this when they get out:
    http://www.bestpicever.com/pics/pic_...1183655534.jpg
    http://graphics.boston.com/bonzai-fb...60094_0366.jpg

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    Glenn Beck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco View Post
    I feel bad for the guy, I really do...but I'm wondering what exactly about getting caught and tortured makes him a hero.

    America really has a fucked up sense of heroism these days. Not trying to take away what happened to him, his team, or what he has sacrificed for this country.

    I know someone must agree with me...
    I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrillCS View Post
    Oh God, it's Guartz
    LOL

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