Teen punks murder American hero's dog

[Correction]

Oh hey look the laws are different during a war as opposed to the robbery of your neighborhood convenience store.

Go fucking figure.

[guartz]

ah, so all that guy has to do is declare war on the clerk?

[Correction]

ah, so all that guy has to do is declare war on the clerk?

...you're trolling. You have to be.

[guartz]

I'm not. I'm just trying to prove to you how pathetic your dogmatic view on the matter is.

But let's recap. The guy robbing the clerk needs to have a superior declare war, and write a law that says it okay to murder him. That should settle it all, right?

[Correction]

Society decides what constitutes murder and what does not. Your own personal label-slapping is what's superficial here.

Guy breaks into your house with the intent to kill you and you kill him in self-defense? Not murder.
You drive down the road in your car and someone jumps in the path of your car, resulting in his death as you strike him? Not murder.
Soldier in a time of war kills other soldiers? Also not murder.

If you disagree with these you disagree with the common practices of most civilized nations. Yeah it sucks to be the guy dying in each scenario but hey you go on ahead and march forward with your anarchist black/white thinking. I'm sure it serves you some sanctimonious purpose to go through life calling military men and women professional murderers.

Hey guartz, I order you to go rob a liquor store. Make sure you kill anyone who stops you. It's okay, because clearly I believe you'll get off the hook for murder.

[guartz]

oh man, I completely forgot about this educational video.
Pirates and Emperors

[guartz]

Also, Dostoevsky wrote a beautiful literary piece on this subject in Crime and Punishment. If anybody is interested.

[Saga]

Also guartz, a thug shooting a store clerk isn't really a member of a country's armed forces and trained in combat. And since you're going to just argue, "well what if he WAS a member of a government's armed forces and kills a store clerk in cold blood?" Then I'd argue that murder is determined by intent. That's why there's different charges like premeditated murder, manslaughter - there's varying degrees of a "murder" charge.

In addition, you have to look at both people, not just the one doing the killing - the store clerk isn't a member of an established country's armed forces. His contract does not stipulate he can use lethal force in times of war, can be drafted, etc. He didn't sign up to defend the store's property, to wield a gun. A random thug on the street is just a random thug on the street. An army is an organized force designed to defend something much bigger and more important than a convenient store. Just because you [think you can] scale it down doesn't make your argument work. Quit being retarded.

[guartz]

You guys are proving Joker right! Remember that scene when he meets Harvy Dent in the hospital and says;

"Know what I noticed? Nobody panics when things go “according to plan”…even if the plan is horrifying. If tomorrow I told the press that, like, a gang-banger will get shot, or a truck load of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it’s all part of the plan. But when I say that one little old mayor will die…well, then everyone loses their minds!"

Sure, society does dictate what's murder! Soldiers killing soldiers, well that's just normal, it couldn't be murder, they are lawful combatants. A thug killing a clerk, that's murder! Even though nobody has yet to mention what the difference is between a thug and that soldier. I mean, tangible, empirical differences. There aren't any! They are both men. They both have guns, and they are killing people. It's not an accident, they aren't doing it in self defense, they are simply killing other people.

Maybe fighting gangs should declare each other lawful combatants and agree on rules of engagement in turf wars. Then, hell, they could be heroes! Defending my rights! Oh, and the innocent bystanders who die in a drive-by? Collateral damage.

[rezn0r]

your tax dollars pay for the military, murderer

[Rhinox]

The term hero is so watered down it no longer means what it meant. Real heroes from here on in shall be known as SUPERHEROES.

that is all

[guartz]

The term hero is so watered down it no longer means what it meant. Real heroes from here on in shall be known as SUPERHEROES.

that is all

I thought hero was defined by having characters attributes such as martial strength and moral excellence.

[Rhinox]

No. Now you just have to enlist in the navy for 4 years and you're an hero

[guartz]

an hero?

[Rhinox]

yes, an hero

[Kuya]

oh man, I completely forgot about this educational video.
Pirates and Emperors

I love you guartz.

[Headspace]

I love you guartz.

^

[Norelco]

So was it ever confirmed for shizzle that this guy was ever captured and/or tortured by Al Qaeda as Glenn Beck claims?

[Kwijiboe]

So was it ever confirmed for shizzle that this guy was ever captured and/or tortured by Al Qaeda as Glenn Beck claims?

No, and as a Glenn Beck listener this did bother me a lot. What's even stranger though is that Marcus Luttrell and Glenn Beck are friends that talk to eachother frequently, and it was Marcus that called Glenn Beck.

[guartz]

I'm glad you guys enjoyed that, lol