Isn't putting a keylogger on your kids computer

[#686578]

Just admitting that you've failed as a parent?

Semi-serious topic by the way, I'd actually want to discuss this in General but I know I'd get called out on trolling even if I'm not.

[Ansems]

Its just a stupid decision, take the comp away and thats it

[AkashiXI]

Depends on what the keylogging follows up on. If you have been playing Big Brother with your kid the entire time (curfue, telling them to call you whenever they go somewhere new, etc etc) then nah, it's just another tool to make sure your kid's safe.* If this is the last stand on trying to stop your kid from completely rebelling against you, then yes, you fail as a parent.

*Being too secure with your kid results in a fail too. Not letting them do anything will make them want to do everything.

[#686578]

See, I find the first part more fail than the second. If you can't trust your kid enough to use a computer, why let them use a computer. At least with the latter of the two scenarios you have a reason to be distrustful.

Maybe I have different opinions because I was always treated as an adult, and I was trusted so long as I didnt give them a reason not to trust me.

[Headspace]

Keylogger is fail.

Telling them to call you wherever they go somewhere new/when they arrive is not. Shit's more for their safety than knowing what they're doing.

[AkashiXI]

I was always treated as an adult too, but I can see why parents would be overprotected when it comes to the internet. I mean, yes there are firewalls, child protection software, passwords, and cookie filters that would reduce the chance of your kid seeing anything "unethical" online, but there's still shit like instant messaging, facebook and myspace that breeds child predators. At least with keylogging you're covering all surfaces of your child's internet history, not just some of it.

Also, I don't think it's that the parents don't trust the child, but don't trust the people they're interacting with. Children are naive

[#686578]

Telling them to call you wherever they go somewhere new/when they arrive is not. Shit's more for their safety than knowing what they're doing.

Yeah I have no problem with calling when you arrive somewhere/going somewhere new, that's just responsible.

I was always treated as an adult too, but I can see why parents would be overprotected when it comes to the internet. I mean, yes there are firewalls, child protection software, passwords, and cookie filters that would reduce the chance of your kid seeing anything "unethical" online, but there's still shit like instant messaging, facebook and myspace that breeds child predators. At least with keylogging you're covering all surfaces of your child's internet history, not just some of it.

Also, I don't think it's that the parents don't trust the child, but don't trust the people they're interacting with. Children are naive

Children aren't naive, or maybe I wasn't, or maybe I was (who am I kidding, I was) abnormally intelligent. I had unrestricted internet access, and the whole internet toughguy thing isn't really me, so I'd like to say I turned out pretty fine. I wouldn't even use firewalls, child protection software, passwords, etc. If I can't teach my kid what the internet is, how it should be used and handled, etc, then really they shouldn't even be using it at all.

[#686578]

Well okay, I'll concede that when they're extremely young, like less than 12. But as they get older I'd have less and less restrictions on them, I'd think.

I do have to let them actually be able to start reasoning functionally before I start to reason with my child.

[AkashiXI]

Well that's obvious, Numbers. It's like throwing your child on a bike without first putting them on training wheels. Eventually you're going to give them no restriction (like... everything else in their life), but at first you need to set boundaries. That's why I don't care if a parent uses a Keylogger so long as their prerequisites aren't obsessive. Imo, giving them zero restriction at a young age is like giving them a key to the candy store. Some kids understand how to restrain themselves, others don't know when to stop.

[Mizango]

Nothing to hide, why so srs etc....

[Kiro]

I can understand parents wanting to keep track of what their kids are looking at on the internet, especially at a young age. There's some pretty fucked up stuff out there. But keylogging is a bit over the top. They could just screw around with default filter settings get Net Nanny or whatever the fuck else is out there that blocks certain sites and keywords. It's really not that difficult.

But honestly, if your kid is 11 or 12 and they're on the computer so often that you think a keylogger is needed, then the parent has other issues. I understand being on for homework and whatever, but gtfo and be a kid outside. No one fucking scrapes their knees anymore or gets in trouble these days.

GAWD I FEEL OLD.

[Mizango]

Yeah, youll have kids one day.... I cringe sometimes when I hear a 50 year old man tell me how hot my daughters going to be when she grows up....

I want to deck that nigga on principle alone. Keylogging like a motherfucker bitches.

[Kiro]

50 year-old telling you how hot your daugher is going to be? Lmfao, that's fucked up.

[Mizango]

50 year-old telling you how hot your daugher is going to be? Lmfao, that's fucked up.

Yeah lol. Happens a lot actually....

Check this... My wife got mad at me once because I threw a FUCKING FIT to her preschool teacher, because when I got the yearbook I saw her holding another kids hand when they took a trip to a park. They had to use the buddy system and I called her teacher and left her this wicked, fire breathing voicemail.....

She had to remind me that he was only 3, then I calmed down. lol

[Kiro]

Protective parent, aww.

[Mizango]

Shotgunnin' niggas on sight.

[Charismatic]

Miz, better not bring that daughter to Houston.
I'm gonna get mine.

[Mizango]

Miz, better not bring that daughter to Houston.
I'm gonna get mine.

You my nigga though. Meaning I'd let you have a phone call first.

[#686578]

Well that's obvious, Numbers. It's like throwing your child on a bike without first putting them on training wheels. Eventually you're going to give them no restriction (like... everything else in their life), but at first you need to set boundaries. That's why I don't care if a parent uses a Keylogger so long as their prerequisites aren't obsessive. Imo, giving them zero restriction at a young age is like giving them a key to the candy store. Some kids understand how to restrain themselves, others don't know when to stop.

Oh right, this isnt general, I guess I dont need to count on people calling me out for every little thing.

However yeah, as soon as I can reason with my child, that shit's gone. And the stuff that's there before should only be for like... porn and gore.

[Shuemue]

ITT: The parents of Numbers' underage girlfriend have put a trojan on her pc and now they can't cyber