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  1. #941
    Warrior Tank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedalus View Post
    Computers can't make random numbers.
    Although a good point, nothing is random by this definition. Everything has a cause and effect even if we don't understand it. Computers can generate a "random" enough number that I'm willing to call that "random" even if it is generated off an algorithm that uses time as a starting point.

    Just because something happens once or twice in a row does NOT mean there is a pattern to it. Real random means there are streaks of luck in any direction occasionally or maybe often. I don't know why people expect "random" to produce a different thing each time.

  2. #942
    assburgers
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    I'm starting to think there is some merit to that "it cycles through shit at certain times, when people get synth mats, you'll probably get em too" idea.

    Gold ring and Plat ring today, Amber and Azure, Int 2 Mnd 1, Dex 2, just said fuck it and turned in on War/Nin cause I'm too sick to care.

  3. #943
    Physicist
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    Raineer Severus
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    Hyperion
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    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/...06341c3a_o.jpg
    Behemoth's Dominion lvl 50. Firesday, he popped with Enwater. I used all fire shit I could think of.

  4. #944
    Relic Weapons
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    Quetzalcoatl

    Has anyone been able to get (from FoV NMs) an augmented stat that was already on the item?

  5. #945
    Bagel
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    Reapz Sjc
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    I kind of agree with the whole cycling through items instead of random, i'm getting nothing but synth materials from Amber Key, but when I got my pet: mab+2 earring from Ivory Key two other people I went with got the same earring just different augments (pet: mab+1)

  6. #946
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reapz View Post
    I kind of agree with the whole cycling through items instead of random, i'm getting nothing but synth materials from Amber Key, but when I got my pet: mab+2 earring from Ivory Key two other people I went with got the same earring just different augments (pet: mab+1)
    Similar with the Coeurl Gorget I mentioned earlier. Someone else had gotten one just before I came in. Stats were meh, but has me wondering on the whole cycle thing, too.

  7. #947
    Relic Shield
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    Gilgamesh

    Just to play on the whole "its not so random" thing, I did this on both of my accounts, made sure to confirm the Crimson Key trade at the same time, and both accounts got Silver Ore. Same thing with Amber hey however produced different results.

  8. #948
    Champion of the House of Weave
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Sylph

    Ivory Key
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    ~6:25pm EST if it might be time based.
    Sam/Blm

    Death Earring (4/5 on earring now)
    MP+9
    Pet: Enmity+1

    Got the Enmity+ I was hoping for, just not where I wanted it. :<

  9. #949
    assburgers
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    Second time I've gotten a Rainbow Obi with Mp +6 Int+5 Hmp +3, exact same augments as the first one I got, doubt job has anything to do with it anymore, was War/Nin first one, Pld/Nin second.

    Just seems to cycle them somehow.

  10. #950
    I like turtles.
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    Nadrojj Rolyatt
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    Yesterday i got a Sapphire Ring as Rng/war: mp+2 str+1

    Was hoping for a ranged attk earring /sadpanda

  11. #951
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadrojj View Post
    Yesterday i got a Sapphire Ring as Rng/war: mp+2 str+1

    Was hoping for a ranged attk earring /sadpanda

    I did the fight twice, my 1st ring was a sapphire with STR+3 CHR+1 and thunder -30

    second was the same ring but STR+1 and mp+5...only use i found for them was hexa strike..why me..

  12. #952
    Human Being
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno View Post
    I've noticed when everyone is getting shitty items (ie not Aug gear, like meds and crap) from ACP keys, to not turn them in cause you'll get some too.
    Within seconds of each other, my LS-mate and I turned in our Ivory keys on Sunday afternoon, she got Diamond Earring with AGI+2, MAB+2, Pet: MAB+1 and I got Diamond Earring with MAB+1 and Pet: MAB+2.

  13. #953
    I like turtles.
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    Do you need to do the fight each time, or can you collect the shinies and select the key?

    Logic tells me you need to do the fight each time, stupidity tells me collect the shinies, now the left and right sides of my brain are fighting eachother in a death match.

  14. #954
    D. Ring
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    Quetzalcoatl

    Amber key- hi potion
    Azure key- acc+8 subtle blow+2 racc-1 coerul gorget. for my brd mule instead of the character with DD jobs.

  15. #955
    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadrojj View Post
    Do you need to do the fight each time, or can you collect the shinies and select the key?

    Logic tells me you need to do the fight each time, stupidity tells me collect the shinies, now the left and right sides of my brain are fighting eachother in a death match.
    For the fei yin fight

    Collect the shinies, choose either Azure Key (can just turn this in, get like coeurl gorgets and beak mantles), or Seed thingy. If you choose seed thingy when you do the Fei yin fight you will get a new Ivory Key, that gives earrings.

    For fulcrum, climb tower & collect shinies, then redo fight to get a new ebon key. If you have a prismatic key (aka haven't chosen your body piece) you won't get a new ebon key but you also won't lose your omnis stone when you enter the fight.

  16. #956
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    Ivory Key: Emerald Earring with Range Acc +1 Pet: Evasion +5

    Guess it's kinda useful, was hoping more for Pet Acc or Mgc Acc :/

  17. #957
    Yoshi P
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    Fitz Everleigh
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    So if it's true that these things are cycling, isn't the best way to shoot for the best augment to max inventory, go trade the key and see what cycle your in? If it sucks, come back later and try again? I would think if it really is cycling you could spam it with capped inventory to see if it keeps trying to give you same thing over and over again.

  18. #958
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    Sylph

    i've honestly given up on trying to get a decent augment....in the time spent doing all this, I coulda made the gil and bought what I needed....

  19. #959
    assburgers
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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoTaru View Post
    So if it's true that these things are cycling, isn't the best way to shoot for the best augment to max inventory, go trade the key and see what cycle your in? If it sucks, come back later and try again? I would think if it really is cycling you could spam it with capped inventory to see if it keeps trying to give you same thing over and over again.
    Will try this later today, good idea.

  20. #960
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    Unfortunately item stats don't pop up when you get the message Obtained: so-n'-so earring/ring/etc. But if it does work, it'd be nice way to filter out meds/mats.

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