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  1. #1001
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    The Miraculous Dale stores data from which monsters you've killed.
    The Trainee Axe lumber collection in Jugner stores data proving the logs came from logging in Jugner.
    Sure there are others I'm missing, those are just two off the top of my head.

    Friend got on late, and then fucked up and hit Mark of Seed because we were chatting about Tenjo Tenge (I was explaining to him that there's more than just neat art and boobs, the story later on is pretty cool), so that fucked up what I was going to do.

    We'll try the above mentioned example tomorrow, but interestingly I turned my key I collected on Firesday in on Earthday (had to hoof it out, missed the day change) and got... dun dun dun, an item I've never gotten before.

    I've never turned in on Earthday either.

    Beak Mantle, Str 2 Dex 1 Subtle Blow +1.

    So the plot thickens.
    While those are all good examples, it's true that pretty much every quest in the game keeps track of stuff behind the scenes. For example, whether you've talked to somebody or had a certain cutscene or entered another zone before, all without ties to key items.

    It's also possible that the quests you mentioned keep track of quest progress the same way any quest does, and it is not tied to the key items involved. Then again, it's also possible that the Mark of the Seed quest can keep track of information without necessarily being tied into the key item possession, too.

  2. #1002
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    People who put so much effort into trying to figure out a pattern for these are missing (imo) the enjoyment 'of' the randomness. Granted it sucks dead-donkey-dong when u get crap but if it was always what you wanted/expected..where would the excitement and anticipation be?

  3. #1003
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    I'm rather curious if order does affect the drop, which I'm thinking it does personally. The very first time I did it I missed the white afterglow (first you pass on the bottom floor) and I got a Brocade Obi. Ever since I've done them in the usual order on the bottom (first doorway, big room, third hall, fourth hall, upstairs to shadows one). And I've received nothing but synthesis materials. I'll have to try it completely backwards one day and see what I get. xD

  4. #1004
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    It would be in getting what I wanted and then going off to do something that is a hell of a lot more interesting, and not grinding this shit for months on end.

    My runs have all been at varying times, and I've received nothing that isn't a variation on what has been posted previously. While I'm inclined to believe it is sufficiently random to prevent the player from effectively controlling it, I'd welcome a pattern that would reduce the amount of time I spend trying for what I want. There's definitely a lot more to do than I have time to do.

  5. #1005
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    So did anyone verify/debunk the full inventory method with trying to narrow down your reward from keys?

  6. #1006
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    Someone said that it says something like "come back after you sort" and doesn't let you know what the item was going to be.

  7. #1007
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    I think that was a joke post, the random stuff isn't fun, and it isn't random.

    Waiting for my test subject to get on before the next firesday > earthday comes up (which is later tonight anyway), so we can see if we get the same thing when we turn them in from that.

    It's random enough just with the actual augments.

    Being able to spam for a perfect beak mantle beats the fucking hell out of spamming for ebony logs and rainbow cloths, seriously.

  8. #1008
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    ANNM drops posted on behalf of Emmaliz of Odin.

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...eicp/ANNM1.jpg

  9. #1009
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    I don't have screenshots or any day/moonphase, but I got 2 Woodsman this past weekend as a 75blu/nin in behemoth's dom.

    1st one was Lightning resist+10, ATK+1
    2nd one was INT+2, ATK+1

    pretty nice i'd say

  10. #1010
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    Att on an Acc ring ain't bad I guess.

    Maybe they'll add a Lightning based Wyrm for which a Lightning Resist set will be hot.

    Test subject farmed on the same day as I did, but missed a glow during his collection run (was busy in Dynamis so I wasn't able to guide him through), fucking up the order.

    We turned in at the same exact time, Hi-pot +1 me, Gold Ingot him.

    Doing the exactly identical farming run with him today when he gets on.

  11. #1011
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    ANNM drops posted on behalf of Emmaliz of Odin.

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...eicp/ANNM1.jpg
    Wow.. 6DEX? That is sexy. Just need one of those with 3% haste. I wonder how high the DEX can go? x.x I was under the impression that 5 was the highest on Barone Manpolas until now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Att on an Acc ring ain't bad I guess.

    Maybe they'll add a Lightning based Wyrm for which a Lightning Resist set will be hot.
    Haha, seriously it would be nice if SE added a Wyrm for each element. They're one of the most fun things to fight in this game imo.

    ps. Byakko's Haidate would be GODLY XD

  12. #1012
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    Man, I want to get one of those demon helms for my bard just because I think it would look badass with shadow coat.

    That and the shield skill body to make an exceptionally anal ichi macro that starts with the acp body and ends in the augmented adaman body, then switchs back to whatever my idle gear is for that particular fight.

    On a side note, I've always wished they'd add a badass lightning wyrm somewhere that casts thundaga 3, shock spikes, does some sort of lightning wing that has a 4-5 second stun, and is unstunnable. Also unsleepable, and flies like tiamat and jorm, and when he lands his touchdown has a chance of a stun. Also en-stun occasional procs on his melee swings. Load some deliciously broken gear onto him, and it would be beautiful.

  13. #1013
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    http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...501_201304.png Just got this.

    Valkurm Dunes, on 29 DRG, got the trousers from a treasure casket.

    Not bad, I guess. Good for DRK and BLU.

  14. #1014
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    Quote Originally Posted by travOtaku View Post
    http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...501_201304.png Just got this.

    Valkurm Dunes, on 29 DRG, got the trousers from a treasure casket.
    What?

  15. #1015
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    I'm fairly certain the chest that appears after you beat a field parchment NM is a treasure casket.

  16. #1016
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devolver View Post
    So did anyone verify/debunk the full inventory method with trying to narrow down your reward from keys?
    This too I wish to know

  17. #1017
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    Ivory Key on RDM/SCH. Not bad imo.

    http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...x9/mabring.png

  18. #1018
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    You can't do the full inventory thing.

    Friend and I are basically confirming that there is something time based.

    We did the same order of glow farming, turned in at the same time, both on Thf37/Blm18.

    I turned in my Amber Key first to see if there is any merit to the "gear or craft" timing shit.

    Amber Key: Beak Necklace (Mnd +2)
    Azure Key: Platinum Ring (Str 2 Dex 1, mine), Beak Mantle (Str 1 Eva 4, his)

    I did the Fei'yin map quest last night incidentally, so I marked the locations of the glows with their colors.

    Top floor is Blue (Vali's NM area), Red (First Room), Orange (Murphy), Yellow (north from Murphy), Green (East from Murphy).

    Bottom floor is White (Warp II quest NM area), Cerulean (Cassie), Gold (Goliath rooms), Silver (southeast of Goliath's tunnel).

    We turned in on Ice Day, at roughly 30% moon, going to do the same jobs on Ice Day tomorrow with a different order of glow collection, but at this point it's looking like it just cycles through craftables/equipables on some as yet undetermined timer, unfortunately.

  19. #1019
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    If you open it on an even interval, you get equipment!
    If you open it on an odd interval, you get shit!

    It's just like the Kirin port!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :/

  20. #1020
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knyghtmayre View Post
    If you open it on an even interval, you get equipment!
    If you open it on an odd interval, you get shit!

    It's just like the Kirin port!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :/
    Random is Random.

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