ACP Mission Thread

[Max™]

No, was refarming the food key items after I turned them in for the port jeuno goblins key, building some TP on a random tiger that got too close and a gob popped.

[Vejitta]

When you start the afterglow collection, you're given the option to go for the quest item or a key. If you go for the quest item then complete the BC, you get a different key.

Yeah, I got that during first gathering. Wasn't sure how it work on next ones.
Thx for info though ^^

[Sirenia]

Won last night 1/2. First was with PLD/RDM, RDM/BLM, RDM/DRK, RNGx2, MNK/WAR. Second time was with PLD/RDM, RDM/BLM, RDM/DRK, COR/WHM, RNGx2.

I ended up getting SMN body with Pet MAB&MACC and Pet ACC.

[gamez]

Yeah, key rewards are once-per-earth-day... You can get a maximum of 4 keys each day.

1) Crimson Key
2) Viridian or Amber Key
3) Azure or Ivory Key
4) Ebon Key

This, also I think it goes

Crimson Key(trade 3 seedspalls from jugner/batallia/meriphataud): 30 wolf mantles
Viridian Key(trade 3 goblin key items to Goblin in Port Jeuno): 40 N/A
Amber Key(redo mandragora fight): 50 raptor mantles
Azure Key(get the seed afterglow keys in fei'yin): 60 beak mantles
Ivory Key(redo qu'bia arena): 67 earrings, platinum ore, granite, philosopher's stone,
Ebon Key(redo final bcnm): 72 rings, khroma ore, elixirs,

I know if you just choose to get a key from the goblin or quest instead of redoing the BCNM fights, the replacement key is 10 levels lower. Does anyone have a more complete list of which key puts out what though, I'm kind of curious, I'd like to

[Shenrien]

Alright, right now I'm 0/3 on this damn mission
and I've made alot of changes to my pld for the mission sole intended
to take as little of the magic damage as he can dish out @ me.

my first attempt we got murdered @ 82% because the rdm failed to
stun charm, 46% rdm's ran out of MP because the /drk kept spamming
stun on everything that didn't need to be stunned and the /whm
wouldnt stop spam curing me for 4's and ended up getting hate when
I took a Judgement to the face and got raped.

last attempt lastnight we got it down to 5% and we would have cleared
if the RDM's we were with didnt focus on raising the rng that moved to close
into judgements path and focused on stunning and curing.

so... the changes I made from my old PLD setup to the new setup
are in pics below, tell me what you think and what I could improve on
(besides HQ) for taking magic damage reduction from this mob.

gear in this box.

Spoiler: show

http://i43.tinypic.com/2j30d2f.png
Original Set of gear that I would use for the fight then I realized
that it was magic based damage. This is my full time and I'm working
on getting some new pieces as well as sea access for my HQ feet D:

http://i41.tinypic.com/f4oepk.png
Provoke Macro

http://i43.tinypic.com/9hhwn7.png
Flash Macro

http://i39.tinypic.com/1hhs5.png
Full Time fight gear (-10% Physical -16% Magical 9 M.Def)

http://i44.tinypic.com/i5rujp.png
Cure 4 Macro.

[Xno Kappa]

Yeah I can understand why your getting owned.
- Some of your gear sucks.
- RDM/DRK only need to worry about stunning -aga spells.
- When/If you get charmed make sure your slept immediately.
- Ranged attackers should stay by the door and are never to go onto the stairs. Beyond the 17'ish range.
- Have one member of your party specifically for solo'ing the Seed Thrall's.

Not trying sound harsh, just giving some objective criticism.

[Valisk]

I went PLD/RDM used I.R. Lance, Legs and Feet, Lamian Kaman +1, and DRing. I kept Phalanx up and occasionally Stoneskin (usually had to recast during -aga). The only thing the RDM should be stunning is -agas. The charm move has a slow charge and can easily be avoided if you are running as soon as you get drawn in.

[Shenrien]

I went PLD/RDM used I.R. Lance, Legs and Feet, Lamian Kaman +1, and DRing. I kept Phalanx up and occasionally Stoneskin (usually had to recast during -aga). The only thing the RDM should be stunning is -agas. The charm move has a slow charge and can easily be avoided if you are running as soon as you get drawn in.

I'm actually working on /rdm for pld, I've only been playing for about 3months
now on this char and still trying to figure out everything about pld I've made
quiet a bit of progress from my old char, I know my gear isn't exactly top
tier and I could make improvements *if that damn crab would drop that belt..*

how would I exactly get hate on the mob besides flash and JA's that PLD
has when going /rdm I never really fully figured it out, my rdm
is 27 right now and I dont even have phalanx yet which I know is great for
damage reduction which overall means less hate loss.

[Seraph]

my rdm is 27 right now

This is causing you infinitely more problems than lack of gear.

[Shenrien]

This is causing you infinitely more problems than lack of gear.

or I was in the middle of leveling it for blm my next 75 when I stopped
briefly to help someone or go do something else for a short time.

[Seraph]

or I was in the middle of leveling it for blm my next 75 when I stopped
briefly to help someone or go do something else for a short time.

I'm just telling you, flat out, you are losing most of the things that makes /RDM great:

- Fast Cast II
- Stoneskin
- Phalanx
- Dispel (For hate, not necessarily for dispelling)
- HP/MP/Stats for those many missed levels

You have some really huge balls when you are calling out the shitty performance of others while you are rocking PLD75/RDM27. It might have been more beneficial for you to go as PLD/WAR, but I'm not sure just how much Magic Defense Bonus I really helps.

[Shenrien]

while you are rocking PLD75/RDM27.

>.> ...
I never used /rdm before I'm in the process of leveling it, I wouldn't
even think about going /rdm with it @ 27 unless someone payed me gil
please dont assume that I went into the mission as pld/rdm when I think
I know better then to go into something like this with a sub that is either
under-leveled or that I hardly fully understand.

I'm probably one of the biggest anti-support role players in the game,
I have a very hard time staying focused to only cure,
debuff and buff other people rather do something more progressive
in the game like tanking where I actually have to pay attention to
what I'm doing.

[Seraph]

>.> ...
I never used /rdm before I'm in the process of leveling it, I wouldn't
even think about going /rdm with it @ 27 unless someone payed me gil
please dont assume that I went into the mission as pld/rdm when I think
I know better then to go into something like this with a sub that is either
under-leveled or that I hardly fully understand.

I'm probably one of the biggest anti-support role players in the game,
I have a very hard time staying focused to only cure,
debuff and buff other people rather do something more progressive
in the game like tanking where I actually have to pay attention to
what I'm doing.

Don't come to BG bitching and asking for help, and then bitch more when you get legitimate advice for your problem. I'm not even being mean, I'm completely serious. Most of your difficulties were probably caused by your under leveled subjob (especially since you mentioned hate issues) and not the other factors you mentioned. I don't care if the mission was not for you, that was not the point.

[Xno Kappa]

Again, your missing the point. Your not /RDM for the sake of buff/debuffing anything. Certain spells essentially become extra tools of enmity to help you hold hate while complementing a magic defense setup with a trait of it. The fact your gimping yourself says a lot about the pt setups you've done the BCNM fights with.

[Shenrien]

Don't come to BG bitching and asking for help, and then bitch more when you get legitimate advice for your problem. I'm not even being mean, I'm completely serious. Most of your difficulties were probably caused by your under leveled subjob (especially since you mentioned hate issues) and not the other factors you mentioned. I don't care if the mission was not for you, that was not the point.

I'm not bitching in any way I'm simply putting, look don't claim that I went
in with a gimp sub when I honestly know better. and I am gonna take the
advice given and work on the issues that I have on my class.

and when someone is spamming cure 4 on me every time I finally get a
chance to get it off and they full cure me by the time mine goes off, what
hate is their to be gained from that? If I didn't get hate when I attempted
it with atonement when testing out the WS for fastest most efficient way
of maxing out the hate on it for damage, then why would it work then?

that Taru RDM was the only person to grab hate on me because I couldn't
get any Cure hate off on myself, so I resorted to curing others when I got
the chance too seeing how he was set on Cure Bot every time my HP
dropped 200 - 400 points when it was in the middle of casting a ga spell
with the best opportunity for me to cure 4 myself for hate.

If you would like I'll post up every detail that was in the past three
attempts for the mission, and each time I went PLD/WAR and the 2nd time
was the only time I lost hate, and that was due to a 1.1k judgement
that left me at 2 HP and the next draw in, grabbed the taru.

[Seraph]

and when someone is spamming cure 4 on me every time I finally get a chance to get it off and they full cure me by the time mine goes off, what
hate is their to be gained from that?

If you had read my responses, you would realize there are faster (and better) ways to get hate on PLD/RDM, but you lack one of the best because you have not completely leveled your subjob.

Are you getting it yet? I'm trying really hard to be nice and ignore your abuse of the enter key.

[Valisk]

how would I exactly get hate on the mob besides flash and JA's that PLD
has when going /rdm I never really fully figured it out

For this particular fight, flash at the start then immediately use all your JAs (Including 2hr) since it has that move that puts them at max timers. Then just flash, blind, and dispel as often as possible. Draw-in makes recasting these annoying but you can usually get one or 2 off during TP moves and -agas.

[Shenrien]

If you had read my responses, you would realize there are faster (and better) ways to get hate on PLD/RDM, but you lack one of the best because you have not completely leveled your subjob.

Are you getting it yet? I'm trying really hard to be nice and ignore your abuse of the enter key.

Yes I'm working on leveling rdm and my response earlier about support-roles in the game was stated as I freaking hate leveling white mage and I really hate leveling red mage, because I sit their, cure, buff, debuff, and enfeeble and it gets really old really fast.

I know red mage is suppose to be a powerful subjob for paladin in a lot of situations and my lack luster of playing a support job has been whats made me procrastinate in leveling for so long, the only reason why I've actually started leveling it right now was because reading the testimonys on clopedia and reading that people did /rdm on here and it seemed to work just fine only added to the drive that I should probably be working on that for a sub.

Plus with black mage being my next 75 I'm also gonna need it after level 50 most likely for burns and soloing.

D: and I know i abuse the enter key, its screams WTF MAN every time I hit it and make sentences like that.

[Seraph]

Yes I'm working on leveling rdm and my response earlier about support-roles in the game was stated as I freaking hate leveling white mage and I really hate leveling red mage, because I sit their, cure, buff, debuff, and enfeeble and it gets really old really fast.

I know red mage is suppose to be a powerful subjob for paladin in a lot of situations and my lack luster of playing a support job has been whats made me procrastinate in leveling for so long, the only reason why I've actually started leveling it right now was because reading the testimonys on clopedia and reading that people did /rdm on here and it seemed to work just fine only added to the drive that I should probably be working on that for a sub.

Plus with black mage being my next 75 I'm also gonna need it after level 50 most likely for burns and soloing.

D: and I know i abuse the enter key, its screams WTF MAN every time I hit it and make sentences like that.

If you have not walked away a little more enlightened, and slightly agitated, I have not done my job correctly.

[Shenrien]

If you have not walked away a little more enlightened, and slightly agitated, I have not done my job correctly.

well, what I can take from reading what was said and apply it to the game to the best of my ability can only go so far. Till rdm hits 37 (just got pt invite on it) I guess my attempts at finishing this mission are gonna be placed on hold. shouldn't take me more then 5 - 8hrs to get the last 10 levels if i stop being lazy and build my own rather lfp and fly around these forums.