Composure Testing

[Dimmauk]

So Composure with /BLU doesnt make Coccon last longer?

[Ultimagi]

Specifically says only White and Black Magic get the duration increase.

[Esvedium]

Seems like the recast penalty is +20% added to Fast Cast traits, which are -10%, giving you a net recast of +10% before equipment. Doesn't seem consistent with 25% after Fast Cast theory.

Casting a spell without composure, then casting the same with composure gives a recast penalty of 25%. This is the same for a naked lv75RDM and a lv75RDM in full fastcast gear.

The one that is naked will have longer recasts than the one in full fastcast gear, but they both have a 25% penalty compared to their non-composure'd recasts.

[Isiolia]

I think what he's looking at is more like a "starting from zero" effect. A RDM, thanks to Fast Cast traits, is starting from negative recast. The end effect with Composure is having increased recasts from zero.

Only real testing I did was trying Reraise out, and saw a 1:06 recast. So my initial impression was similar...instead of getting a 10% reduction, under Composure, a RDM is getting a 10% increase (60 second base recast on that).

In thinking about it...perhaps testing Composure at level 50 cap (or, at least, 50-54 range to have Composure + only Fast Cast II) would reveal more specifically how this is being calculated? Is it something that's being applied as a blanket effect that native Fast Cast partially counters...or is it an effective reversal of the FC bonus?

[Esvedium]

The way it seemd to me was this.

Take your spell recast, no matter what your own fastcast drops it down to.

Add 25% to that number.

That's your recast with composure on instead of it off.

I'm not comparing it to the recast of a whm/blm with no recast gear, because that doesn't matter at all to me. I'm comparing me without composure on to me with composure on. Each time, it's a +25% recast time.

Not like we're talking about quantum physics here. It's just +25% recast time...

[Ultimagi]

With 10% Haste on my equipment, I casted Reraise, the recast time came out to exactly 1 minute. The 20% penalty from Composure canceled out the 10% Haste and Fast Cast job traits perfectly.

[Khajit]

RDM in salvage says haste isnt getting buffed by composure so SE may have ninja fixed that during the matinence.

[[Cookies]]

RDM in salvage says haste isnt getting buffed by composure so SE may have ninja fixed that during the matinence.

Is he casting it on himself or other people? >____>;

With 10% Haste on my equipment, I casted Reraise, the recast time came out to exactly 1 minute. The 20% penalty from Composure canceled out the 10% Haste and Fast Cast job traits perfectly.

60 seconds +20% is 72 seconds. Your recast with 10% Haste and Fast Cast 3 would then be 58.

Remember, Composure is being added after the new recast is calculated, hence the 25%.

Reraise recast with 10% Haste and Fast Cast 3 is 48 seconds. +20% to that and you have a 57 second recast whereas you're actually getting a 60 second recast.

I'm pretty sure SE confirmed that long before the update.

It was worth testing, their translators aren't exactly spectacular. Esuna is a good reminder of that.

[Raen Ryong]

My self-buffed Composure Haste is working <_< in Al'taieu at the moment if that means anything.

[Kaeko]

Who's gonna test all our stuff now that the best players were banned Ring?

The same cheaters everyone hate.

[Skjie]

The same cheaters everyone hate.

Pretty sure no one hates you.

[Day]

Pretty sure no one hates you.

Agreed.

[Araelus]

Pretty sure no one hates you.

Agreed.

Third'd.

And thanks for the testing.

[Isiolia]

60 seconds +20% is 72 seconds. Your recast with 10% Haste and Fast Cast 3 would then be 58.

Remember, Composure is being added after the new recast is calculated, hence the 25%.

Reraise recast with 10% Haste and Fast Cast 3 is 48 seconds. +20% to that and you have a 57 second recast whereas you're actually getting a 60 second recast.

Consider it more like this: Fast Cast III (10% recast) is a .9 modifier to recast times.
A "20% increase" is adding .2 to that, so 1.1. -10% to 10% is a 20% difference.

The approximate result is pretty similar to what you'd get with a simple 25% recast time penalty.

After playing with a few things though, I'd say that the 25% seems more in line with the recast numbers I'm seeing. Some differ by a second or so, depending on how you do them, and when they do it seems to correspond more to that than to the 20% FC difference as described.
Still could have to do with in-game math/rounding, but meh >.>

[[Cookies]]

Pretty sure no one hates you.

Agreed.

Third'd.

And thanks for the testing.

Fourth'd! Thanks for the testing Kaeko.

[Knightfell]

The same cheaters everyone hate.[/URL]

Welcome Back :D

[Ashira]

Hey, you're welcome.

I helped too, gdi, Kaeko's not a whm

[[Cookies]]

Hey, you're welcome.

I helped too, gdi, Kaeko's not a whm

Thanks to you aswell.

[Day]

Hey, you're welcome.

I helped too, gdi, Kaeko's not a whm

loook at meeee!!

<3 Ash

[Seraphus]

Specifically says only White and Black Magic get the duration increase.

I personally find it completely fucking stupid that it imposes penalties to ALL kinds of magic even though it only increases the durations of white and black enhancing magic....