New Spell Locations & Composure Testing

[Blasta]

It didnt seem to matter what weapon i used, i could reach 38dmg with 293 enhancing magic. Someone posted earlier doing 60dmg or so with all possible enhancing gears and weather bonuses.

Enspell II might be worth using with Ceremonial dagger, but then again would you equip Enhancing instead of Haste? What about tougher mobs that have higher evasion, would you use Enhancing or Accuracy gears? Not to mention about the slowly buildin dmg...

Is this spell really worthwhile..?

[Ghondi]

I so remember farming ninjitsu spells in castle O a long time ago when they went for alot of gill. I guess now people will be farming the hell out of these en-spells II to make some gill selling them on ah for crazy prices. Good ting for lazy people though the more people that farm and sell the spells the chea[er they will become and faster they will become cheaper on ah.

On a side Note Mobs like cactrot Rapedo in desert you kill with nothing but en-spells when you solo shouldnt take as long now lol.

[Darkyrm]

With that kind of damage, no activation either on dualwield or additional hits and having to wear the enhacing each hit...

... Ill take my haste+dualwield+enspell1 soloing as Rdm/Nin (which is when I use en-spells) thank you.

[Blasta]

On a side Note Mobs like cactrot Rapedo in desert you kill with nothing but en-spells when you solo shouldnt take as long now lol.

I have killed rapido like 50+ times, you dont enspell it really. Critical hit is almost garanteed 1dmg or more even with Mahatma armors. You use only poison to kill it, which takes around 1h.

[Callisto]

Is that with enhancing gear kept on? Someone earlier in the thread mentioned it recalculates based on your enhancing after every proc

That's a load of crap, I cast in my enhancing then melee'd in all haste minus the Fencer's/Hyorin and damage stayed up where it should be.

The 'lower resistance" from enspells is shit ; I didn't conduct an extended test, but was just trying to see if it was a big boost by silencing pudding after a few swings. Typically, with my best gear i get 10% success (this is very accurate, 1k sample size), with enstoneII no silence proc'ed out of 13 tries (yes only) making this essentially useless ... since the only use of it would be slowing/paralyzing extremly resistant shit ..

That's exactly what I can't wait to use it for, I already use Death Blossom to open on things like Sky gods, it goes a long way towards landing Slow on Byakko and sticking solid Silences on Suzaku, the last time we did one I silenced him during the full duration of Chainspell, making things like that even easier will be fantastic imo

[Day]

I have killed rapido like 50+ times, you dont enspell it really. Critical hit is almost garanteed 1dmg or more even with Mahatma armors. You use only poison to kill it, which takes around 1h.

All this time and I freaking knew there was only one way to skin a cat.

Damn you Daddy, you lied to me!

[Mahman]

It didnt seem to matter what weapon i used, i could reach 38dmg with 293 enhancing magic. Someone posted earlier doing 60dmg or so with all possible enhancing gears and weather bonuses.

Enspell II might be worth using with Ceremonial dagger, but then again would you equip Enhancing instead of Haste? What about tougher mobs that have higher evasion, would you use Enhancing or Accuracy gears? Not to mention about the slowly buildin dmg...

Is this spell really worthwhile..?

Don't write the spell off yet. You should really do your own testing. It's not as great as it could be because it will not proc on 2nd Joyeuse hit, but the math suggests (in conservative estimates) that Tier II Enspells may be worth it.

Well... my version of "the math" anyway. I'm assuming the base formula is the same for the calculation of damage and that TierII then just increments up to a new cap. I haven't gotten a chance to test myself yet, but this math is based on everything I've read so far..

Assuming no weather bonus no day bonus and 256 skill. I'm only adding up the add.effect damage.
((256 / 20) + 5) * 1.00 = 17.8

Say 100 attack rounds.
45% DA from Joyeuse

100*17.8 + 45*17.8 = 1780 + 801 = 2581 add.effect from Tier 1 Enspell

For Tier II en-spell I'm gonna assume the calculation is the same
((256 / 20) + 5) * 1.00 = 17.8

But the damage increases to a cap so..
17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28+29+30 (we'll assume it's 30 but it certainly seems you can hit a higher cap) = 329dmg
30*22 for next 22 hits = 660dmg ( 22 attack rounds at cap taken from EnthunderII page on ffxiclopedia. Not sure what affects how long you stay at the cap)
next 14 you recast and rebuild to cap = 329dmg
next 22 = 660dmg
next 14 = 329dmg
next 22 = 660dmg

Sum total = 2967 in additional effect damage. for Tier 2 enspell. I gave this an extra 8 attack rounds (14+22+14+22+14+22 = 108 ). so let me add that to the first scenario.
8*17.8 = 142.4 (8 attack rounds)
+ 3*17.8 = 53.4 (45% double attack)
= 195.8 added to the 2581 = 2776.8 add.effect damage for Tier 1 enspell


TO LONG DIDN"T READ???
So Tier II w/ Joyeuse adds 2967
Tier I w/ Joyeuse adds 2776.8

I think my math approach makes sense, but let me know if I failed to consider something. I'm only comparing the damage from additional effects on a neutral day with neutral weather and assuming that the base formula is the same. Reasonable enhancing skill, etc.

As more information comes, this math could be refined, but take it for what it's worth (or isn't worth). Give TierII a chance!

[Alphavision]

Assumptions:
1 weapon dmg == 1 enspell dmg
100% accuracy
no attack / fSTR effects
no haste
dual wield + suppa where applicable.

http://sites.google.com/site/alpha14...t/enspell1.JPG
http://sites.google.com/site/alpha14...t/enspell2.JPG

[Dimmauk]

Garuda dagger off hand not so bad with Enspell IIs.

[Esvedium]

Assumptions:
1 weapon dmg == 1 enspell dmg
100% accuracy
no attack / fSTR effects
no haste
dual wield + suppa where applicable.

If those are right, time to dust off the old Hornetneedle. :D

[Callisto]

Just whacked some spiders outside of Whitegate and got entirely different looking results than I did last night. The T2 cap seemed higher, the initial damage seemed lower, the Enhancing Gear part does in fact seem to be true unless I was getting partial resists.

I linked half the damn zone so had to bail out, and time for ACP missions with LS, but I was seeing an initial damage of 18 with a cap of 40 wearing 300 skill on Attercops, neutral day/weather.

Edit: Check the 18, it was 20 initial(same as T1 base), forgot my Enspell macros swap PCC in after cast.

[Callisto]

Cap with 300 enhancing = 40, cap after swaping to 273 = 36, 258 + hollow = 37

The skill > damage formula seems a bit steeper than T1s.

[TummieGaruda]

Got Enwater II off Emerald Quadavs in Crawlers Nest [S]. After you teleport in from your nation (Glad we can tele to dungeons now), turn around head thru the wooden door, get around the two bombs and get to where the ledge is. There are Quadavs and Lizards in this room, the lizzies will agro you. Set up camp in one of the little halls. There are only 2 Mobs in this area, but my friend and I were the only ones there. Friend was soloing there for 10 min, I showed up WHM/THF and got drop on the first one that we fought together.

[Avarice]

Jeez, you made me go get another. First kill again, so it looks like a pretty common drop:

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[Araelus]

Enspell II doesn't proc on offhand hit with Dual Wield

QQ

Doesn't work on a double attack, either (haven't tested triple attack).

[AzazaelFenrir]

What are the two pos for the Onyx Quadav in Grauberg?

[Araelus]

What are the two pos for the Onyx Quadav in Grauberg?

(I-8 / J-8) (J-5/6)

need to have more than TWO MOBS SQUARE DAMMIT

[Vail]

to the graph above: enhancing sword (and any other +enspell damage equip) doesn't get added to the x2 cap, it's a raw + added to the enspells final value.

so +10 shift on enhancing sword for enspell II is incorrect.

[Alphavision]

Thank you for the correction.

[Ryphen]

For those of you that don't want to compete with a million other people for the Enspells, you can buy them from an NPC for about 30k each. Price probably varies a bit.

It's the Mithra by the fountain in Ru'Lude that sells all the buffalo related items. I bet they won't always be available since her stock is dependent on how much stuff people by from her. Price may also be dependent on how much she sells as well.

I expect they'll vanish after the server reset for maintenance, but I won't be around to check.