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  1. #1041
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlantan View Post
    Isnt just an 5 int/mnd belt going to be giving more than +2 macc in every situation, along with potency when applicable?
    for enfeebles I think so, but for dark stuff don't think so, for drain/aspir.

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    There has been evidence that INT doesn't affect dark magic potency but nothing suggesting that it doesn't affect dark magic accuracy, which would still make 5int superior to +2macc if we use our standard model of magic accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    There has been evidence that INT doesn't affect dark magic potency but nothing suggesting that it doesn't affect dark magic accuracy, which would still make 5int superior to +2macc if we use our standard model of magic accuracy.
    Yep after posting and editing my macros remembered I had relic belt in there, so only enfeeble lol.

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    5int will still beat 2macc for enfeebling; best case scenario, 5INT = 5macc and worse case, 5INT = 2.5macc... either way, it'll win.

    For para/slow, you're getting 2.5-5macc and potency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    5int will still beat 2macc for enfeebling; best case scenario, 5INT = 5macc and worse case, 5INT = 2.5macc... either way, it'll win.
    you cannot stack INT indefinately and expect it to give magic accuracy. Past dint=20 it does amost nothing.

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    Source for that? Just talking anecdotally I find that very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Source for that? Just talking anecdotally I find that very unlikely.
    I've never seen anything on enfeebling/magic acc corelation, potency yes. I was talking sleep/bind for blm not slow/para but either way if you knwo the data I'd love to see it. Not trying to come off lippy or anything.

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    Oh, I know; there were extensive tests run recently which were summarised on Kaeko's blog and a version of this has been put onto otherwiki.

    it also shows 1 skill = 1 magic accuracy and for stats such as INT = 1 magic accuracy until total int is >targetINT+10. Each additional point of INT after that gives 0.5 magic accuracy. ... It is assumed the same goes for MND vs TargetMND and CHR vs TargetCHR.
    Pchan recently editted the article several times and it's incredibly messy at the moment but that's the relevant line.

    Magic Accuracy - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more is the link.

    EDIT: The reason I doubt Pchan's answer than when dSTAT > 20 adding further STAT adds little to accuracy is that when I've been improving my RDM Bind build with basically what has been a lot of INT lately since I have Enfeebling Skill in the relevant areas, I've noticed a great increase in accuracy.

  9. #1049
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    you cannot stack INT indefinately and expect it to give magic accuracy. Past dint=20 it does amost nothing.
    Do you have any source for this?

    Considering Lodeguy modeled and collected data to like +30 dINT I find it unlikely both he and Robonosto would miss this in their data evaluation.

    This is the original graph the dINT cutoff comes from...

    DeltaINT_HitRate_Burn.png (image)

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    If your int is 20 over the mob's int would you even need to worry about the 2macc on waist?

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    Got a nice Ruby Earring today. Int 1, Attack 5, Pet: Attack 4 RAttack4.

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    YAY! So I got this:
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...709_031245.png
    I'm so happy I finally got a good augment. My question is though: can I keep onto this, and just in case I get a new Beak Mantle that's better, replace it with the old? I.e: the casket says "Unable to obtain item, please come back after sorting your inventory." will it be the same item as before or will it change? I'm assuming someone must have some sort of experience with this, so yeah. Any response is welcomed!

    PS: My body is Antares Harness, but I hate how it looks like a SH so I .dat swapped lol

  13. #1053
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    Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it is.

  14. #1054
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    It's only AUG/EX so I would assume you can have two or more of them, in the same way you can have 2 Shikaree Rings, 2 Aspir Knifes, etc.

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    Oh, thanks!

  16. #1056
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    My question is though: can I keep onto this, and just in case I get a new Beak Mantle that's better, replace it with the old? I.e: the casket says "Unable to obtain item, please come back after sorting your inventory." will it be the same item as before or will it change? I'm assuming someone must have some sort of experience with this, so yeah. Any response is welcomed!

    PS: My body is Antares Harness, but I hate how it looks like a SH so I .dat swapped lol
    Congrats, I've been trying to get a nice Beak Mantle for ages, but no luck.

    You can hold on to it and replace it if you get a better one. I've gotten multiple augmented Corsettes and I always just NPC the worse one.

    The casket will only give you that message if your inventory is full. I don't know if the item will change because when I had full inventory I never saw what I was gonna get.

  17. #1057
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisu View Post
    The casket will only give you that message if your inventory is full. I don't know if the item will change because when I had full inventory I never saw what I was gonna get.
    I've actually kept Vile Elixirs on me just for this, I got a Sort Message a few times for ACP Fight Key turn in because of Elixir then got a Ring/Earring/Other Item after that~

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkashiXI View Post
    YAY! So I got this:
    http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...709_031245.png
    I'm so happy I finally got a good augment. My question is though: can I keep onto this, and just in case I get a new Beak Mantle that's better, replace it with the old? I.e: the casket says "Unable to obtain item, please come back after sorting your inventory." will it be the same item as before or will it change? I'm assuming someone must have some sort of experience with this, so yeah. Any response is welcomed!

    PS: My body is Antares Harness, but I hate how it looks like a SH so I .dat swapped lol
    hate

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    http://i28.tinypic.com/iz6drc.png

    lol ACP7 lastnight after the pup in my group said "Inga stop campaigning and go appraise your item so I can hate you" much hate followed I think, so'kay she'll get her item someday.

  20. #1060
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    why the fuck do I only get emerald earrings, 3rd one all 3 earrings out of 8 or 9 times doing the bcnm and crappy augments too:
    http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...meraldearr.jpg
    debating npcing it still

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