SMN Update Testing

[Rionel]

I haven't been able to test Meteor Strike again, but I've tested the other things.

For the issue of BP timers now not taking up MP or Timer if the target is out of range:

- No MP usage
- No Timer usage
- You can re-issue the BP again right after the Avatar is done the "charging" animation if your BP misfired.

Tested by having the avatar purposely out of range of the target.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...act_repeat.jpg

Very funny to watch. ;o

Bloodpact: Ward has huge range now. Tested Hastega, Earthen Ward, Spring Water and they all seem to have at least 9.8 radius effect area now.

More coming when Dynamis is done!

[Rikura]

Damn, seems like a "buff" to astral burning to me. No more failing 2-hour rage because of TFA!

On the other hand, it won't prevent a clown from using say "Claw" instead of "Aerial Blast."

[frodnonnag]

flying dragon, physical bloodpact spam go!

[Kenji]

Garuda Windblade
5 magic attack merits
Attercops outside Aht urghan
0% TP: 788
105%:1040
201% TP: 1273
300% TP: 1513

I can see sexy time with more pet: MAB gear. Need to grab an astral pot, reward body armor with 7% MAB, a COR with Drachen Roll, and a SAM to SC for an MB.

[Pindle]

What I want to know is whether Wind Blade will replace Nether Blast for Smn on kited Kirin fights.

[Kairos]

Wind blade should have been replacing netherblast on kited kirins long ago. When they first came out, I used to get up to 1300 magic bursts with my windblade. It was less prone to resisting than the blm's aero spells, but that's probably due to my magic accuracy merits.


No MAB merits, only 5/5 Magic acc. I only had time to run a quick test on anticans. I wasn't concerned about trying them against higher level mobs because i already used them constantly on faf, tiamat, KA, sandworm, etc.


Grand Fall 5/5

60% TP: 1273

Thunderstorm 3/5

8% TP (1hit): 970

132% TP: 1250

Wind Blade 2/5

18% TP: 975


I'll have to try it out on some NM's and stuff when I get the chance. It looks like they just boosted the base damage by 200.

[Demosthenes11]

What I want to know is whether Wind Blade will replace Nether Blast for Smn on kited Kirin fights.

how is this post not dated 2005

[Pindle]

how is this post not dated 2005

There are two tacks I can take with this. First, not every LS out there has the capacity to TP burn Kirin. Second, SE changed the potency of the BP, so I want to know if it's more relevant for Smn now.

[evilpaul]

Did SE fuck up whatever Ramuh's Enthunder BP is called too?

[Kairos]

Just got a chance to try out my thunderstorm again. This was on lightning day, but since info about the boost is still coming in I have no way of knowing weather this was with day bonus or not (i'm assuming these numbers are without). My windblade on my last post I also forgot to mention were on windsday.

Thunderstorm 3/5

300% TP: 1510

[Silenka]

This better not make me drop my acc merits in favor of magic attk bonus ; ; ....but it probably will...

[Sodalitas]

Looks like SE adjusted the TP bonus per level to 40TP instead of 60TP, but raised the damage per TP and base damage.

Test subjects: Aht Urhgan Attercops in Bhaflau Thickets
5 Avatar Magical Attack merits
Neutral Day, Neutral Weather

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...1&d=1239254441

Now I really really want to put Pet MAB/MAcc on that Redingote. Decisions, decisions...

[Kaisha]

I'm taking it the emnity generated from issuing the BP still remains even if it fails to land?

[Sodalitas]

I'm taking it the emnity generated from issuing the BP still remains even if it fails to land?

Yeah, tested by issuing BP command from max distance without Assaulting. Mob still came after me, which triggered the avatar auto-attack.

[Toth]

I have a good mob to test these improvements on: the big birds in Lufaise. I never got over 500 Heavenly Strike on them and stopped trying years ago. Anyone want to see if the damage is better on an IT mob? I would but off to bed ; ;

[Rionel]

Did some testing on Mamool Jas once more:

Before:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...riketest03.jpg

After:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...il09update.jpg

About +100 more DMG compared to pre-update. It's funny because even though they "nerfed" the TP bonus on Avatar Merit BPs, the overall DMG is still slightly stronger.

Although TPing with Avatars is not terribly efficient, this is still a decent damage increase!

Technically, the Merit BPs have higher "potential" damage now because of the changed TP Bonus and the increased damage overall (based off my tests):

240TP Bonus deals 1000~ DMG Pre-update
160TP Bonus deals 1100~ DMG Post-update

160TP Bonus + 56TP = 216~220TP:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...pril09test.jpg

[Shassira]

Did the accuracy of the pacts change? It never really felt like they were very accurate, although that's probably because my merits aren't geared that way. Not that I use SMN much anymore either.

Just a couple extra details not said above, as obvious as they may be:

- Range of AoE wards is now 10' from the avatar. (What SE said, protectra range )
- On a failed BP, the timer is set to 1' - BP gear, and it's only reset to 0 again when the BP actualy is registered as failed. This may sound obvious, but before I tested I was wondering if they had changed the moment in which the BP's timer gets placed at 1' to the moment when the BP actualy fired. Had this been this way, it would've destroyed the usual SMN way of macroing -BP gear and Skill after the trigger, so I though it was important to at least point out that everything is as good as possible in this respect.

Oh, and some numbers I got while testing Windblade lv2 a bit on Aht Urgan Attercops:
8% TP: 847
177% TP: 1247
300% TP: 1411
and a boring etc.

[Sheebs]

I am interested on this change and effect on wyrms and Khimara. Garuda's physical was always effective on Khimara but I would be interested to see what a fully merited shiva would do.

Not sure if anyone still uses smn on wryrms but they would be a good test target for highly resistant HNM's. I am sure some linkshells are gonna kill some Jorm for moly ingots!

I can't do it, cause I merited physical, cause the other ones weren't worth it previously.

[Miraun]

Thank you for all of the testing and good numbers. I'm anxious to see the full capacity of these things

[Tulun]

Bugger.. this may require me to remerit MAB.

I am currently 1/5 on Wind Blade and 1/5 on Geocrush (it adds stun, was too tempting).

For the most part would I get good utility capping Geo+Wind?