SMN Update Testing

[Pindle]

I went through all the +Smn skill gear you could get in the game so far and all I'm missing is the Astute Cape and the +2 difference between the Marduk's Tiara and the AF head. However, I don't use the Smn torque for BPs - that's what I have the Sacrifice Torque for. As I said earlier (I think), I don't have any Smn skill merits or avatar acc merits either. This is basically what I have on for BP executions (notable exceptions being magic BPs and Garuda [Karura Hachigane]): - FFXIAH.com

In your experience with Smn skill and accuracy, do you think that's sufficient for me to drop the +15 accuracy on the RR in favour of another stat or is the conversion of Smn skill to Acc more complicated than that?

[Spira]

This is pretty much where I stand.

me too

and as for your post 2 pages back explaining your augment choices for RR..
i seriously think you're the first SMN i know whose line of thought is almost completely aligned with mine as far as playing the smn job goes..

well met.. :D

[geno3302]

Level 75 Fenrir is 11MP
-3 Staff (HQ Staff)
-1~3 Body (YYrobe/Various other crap, Redingote/Penance, Relic Body)
-1 Hands (Nashira)
-1 Ring (Evoker's)
-1 Feet (Pigache's +1)
-1 Auto-refresh (Job Trait, Duh)

Now, on Darksday you'll be looking at 1MP a tic for Fenrir, Any other time 3MP a tic for Fenrir, and With your idea of Perp-2 On Rendingote, 2MP a tic.

I didn't include Sanction/Sigil Refresh, or Conjurer's Ring, or Hell, Even SMn's Horn for -3 With SCH Weather Effect, Which would Make Fenrir Free in all 3 Situations

I'm Confused what side of the Argument on, So Don't take this as Directed at you, just a general Note that, 1 More Perp isn't going to help you outside of One Situation, Ever. and that is Solo'ing a Tough Mob or NM. Every Other Situation has much Better Alternatives or is over to quickly for it to matter, And with (at worst) 4-5MP/tic Fenrir should fit anyones needs. Not to Mention if your solo'ing anything worth your time you'd bring some form of Meds, Yagudo Drinks, Etc or you're unprepared and shouldn't be soloing anyway



I agree with this, as i stated in my opening line that i use SMN for endgame. i was just anticipating the Abundant Ignorance of others which seems to be overflowing here.

Personally I'm going for ATT and MAB, but I was considering ATT and perpetuation cost for the exact reason of carby kiting and fenrir. The ATT would also boost the dmg of both of them, but that's not as important and if I cared that much about perpetuation cost-2 I would go get a penance robe.

Some people don't use SMN for endgame events, some people don't care about perfecting SMN for endgame events. Some people use SMN to solo, picking perpetuation cost-2 with another stat that helps you solo is not a bad idea. Augment what is best for what you use the job for, or what you have most fun doing with the job.

But, as you said, if you're using SMN for endgame events the perpetuation-2 is worthless. I wish my LS would use my SMN more lol.....I'm always on SAM.

[Shin Volcano]

Where I do agree with you is getting physical stats. As much as the MAcc/Mab looks nice, in the end I use physical pacts more than magical.

Same thing i thought, it was such a hard decsision, but when i do use SMn it's ussualy Physcial BPS so i thought that was the best option, and so far it hasnt dissapointed, I wish we could have a 3rd choice...it would make it so much easier but then...there would be very little reason for any other body for meele.

[nitsuj]

I wish we could have a 3rd choice..

{Yes Please}

I agree I use phys pacts more than anything, but that MAB is just too sexy to pass up.

[DAKPluto]

screw 3rd choice, I just want SMN skill +20 on the body :D

[Indalecia]

Jeez, that would put most of us hardcore types in the 350+ range

[DAKPluto]

So you see my point :D 400+ Siphons, yes please.

[Shin Volcano]

Am i the only one to think it's wrong that Summon skill should also effect MAB :/ not like we get any other options for it now that body introduced it.

[Acturus]

Am i the only one to think it's wrong that Summon skill should also effect MAB :/ not like we get any other options for it now that body introduced it.

I agree, especially since melee skill raises accuracy & attack.

[DAKPluto]

If I had my way, summoning skill would affect a ton of things:

Earthen Ward absorption amount
Healing Ruby II potency (and Spring Water/Whispering Wind)
Fenrir BPs (ditch the moon phase garbage. SMN skill to boost stats in tiers)
Same with Diabolos


etc etc

The big summoning skill update of before was a good start...but just a start. Time to start making summoning skill even more useful. And the thing is...it is broken, and isn't even abnormal. All the other mage jobs get these kind of things adjusted by skill...why can't we?

Just imagine how much more useful we would become again if we could Earthen Ward a party for 400 HP absorption, HR2 for 400-500, give melee and mages +10-15 for all stats all the time, increase Dream Shroud to a +15 MAB/MDB, Noctoshield to absorb ~20 damage, etc etc.

[Sheebs]

my setup: marduk tiara, summoning torque and earring, summoner hands+1, astute cape, marduk or oracle legs, marduk or nashira feet, bahamut staff or that new ANNM staff.
i haven't seen anything else new with magic skill on it.

as for landing a physical pact: karura hachigane(garuda only)/marduk, smn bracers +1 and feet, af+1 legs, astute cape, augmented ruby earring, smn earring.

there's alot of new pet stat gear, so while the 5 visible slots won't change, i might have to macro around rings, belts, and earring.

New ANNM staff? Please expand.

Also how did you pull off the augmented ruby earring?

I saw a pair of errant pigaches off the Goldcap in crawlers nest, with conserve mp, and pet attack +4.

[Shin Volcano]

New ANNM staff? Please expand.

Also how did you pull off the augmented ruby earring?

I saw a pair of errant pigaches off the Goldcap in crawlers nest, with conserve mp, and pet attack +4.

It's just random what auguments come off, and i am pretty sure af2 feet would still beat those pigaches, does anyone know off-hand how much attack boost af2 feet give?

[DAKPluto]

It's just random what auguments come off, and i am pretty sure af2 feet would still beat those pigaches, does anyone know off-hand how much attack boost af2 feet give?

Unfortunally, nearly impossible to test on SMN Our damage varies so much, no real way of testing.

[frodnonnag]

New ANNM staff? Please expand.

Also how did you pull off the augmented ruby earring?

I saw a pair of errant pigaches off the Goldcap in crawlers nest, with conserve mp, and pet attack +4.

annm staff, picture of it is buried in one of the two-3 threads, has smn skill+5 and pet macc or matk.

as for the augmented ruby earring, its from the key from the 4 beastmen BCNM in fei'yin, i also got a enmity-1 pet:enmity-1 earring from there, and there looks to be pet macc, matk(?) enmity+, and acc as well, just from that bcnm. i highly suggest finding a way to smn burn this bcnm, any smn(or pup, or bst) worth their salt wouldn't want to pass up some stats on earrings, thanks to this update i now have +20 atk to pets, and with some more work i'll cap at +25 with a second ruby earring.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ivory_Key

there's also obis with stats we can use somewhere, but i've only seen something like +2 macc.

[Sheebs]

annm staff, picture of it is buried in one of the two-3 threads, has smn skill+5 and pet macc or matk.

as for the augmented ruby earring, its from the key from the 4 beastmen BCNM in fei'yin, i also got a enmity-1 pet:enmity-1 earring from there, and there looks to be pet macc, matk(?) enmity+, and acc as well, just from that bcnm. i highly suggest finding a way to smn burn this bcnm, any smn(or pup, or bst) worth their salt wouldn't want to pass up some stats on earrings, thanks to this update i now have +20 atk to pets, and with some more work i'll cap at +25 with a second ruby earring.

Ivory Key - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

there's also obis with stats we can use somewhere, but i've only seen something like +2 macc.

Looks like the mythic pole has possible summoner stats which is from the meriphatad mountain ANNM @ lvl 75.

I am interested in that ruby earring, may have to spam that bc some. Also it looks like there are many little pieces that have potential to build up a decent amount of summoner stats for a BP macro.

Post any good waistpieces if you find them.

[frodnonnag]

Looks like the mythic pole has possible summoner stats which is from the meriphatad mountain ANNM @ lvl 75.

I am interested in that ruby earring, may have to spam that bc some. Also it looks like there are many little pieces that have potential to build up a decent amount of summoner stats for a BP macro.

Post any good waistpieces if you find them.

amber key, beak necklace with pet atk+5 or brocade obi with pet macc+3

Amber Key - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

[nitsuj]

Uh oh

Nirvana - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki has a photo of Nirvana, who finished it??

[frodnonnag]

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Nirvana - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki has a photo of Nirvana, who finished it??

its not hard to spoof those.

[Reapz]

Uh oh

Nirvana - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki has a photo of Nirvana, who finished it??

Theres a picture of every mythic weapon lol, doesn't mean someone finished