SMN Update Testing

[nitsuj]

It also means he must have relic hands +1 ;_; I dont wanna go back to dynamis... blah

I am missing Marduk head / legs (or oracle braconi), relic hands +1... so i am 6 skill short ><;

Relic hands+1 are just a lucky drop, but they're one of my favorite pieces to have :D

I wouldn't worry too much, though, it's *only* two points. Make sure you have something in every other slot first.

[frodnonnag]

I had to read that several times to get it.


Very interesting to think of it like that. I think im going to side with what im saying only because SE said it effects Rage pacts only. Regardless though I like that theory and hope your right.

Why cant SE just reveal some of these questions to us... its sometimes more annoying than fun to figure this crap out.

reason behind my belief is that its easier from a programming standpoint to program the bonus as a straight, across the board, macc and acc modifier, then to tailor it specifically to the pacts.

[frodnonnag]

can always get free nashira feet instead. (unless of course your using it more than just a smn macro piece.)

already have nashira feet, the reason behind marduk is the MP and mnd

[frodnonnag]

yeah cool beans, although for me even if I had the marduk it would still just be a macro piece on smn.

My whm might be a diff story.

i macro between af+1, relic, nashira, gaiters, and a +3 hmp feet.

[Reapz]

I'm 4 Physical Acc, 5 Physical Att, 1 Magic Att for group 1 at the moment, tempted to change Acc to capping Magic Att though. Group 2 i'm 5 Wind Blade and 2 Heavenly Strike, going to cap Heavenly Strike (considered going 1/5 in the rest of them but meh, 2 max bps probably better)

[frodnonnag]

i wanna see it! POIDH i have yet to see it ; ;. not that i dont beleive you... i just have to see it. Also its nice to know that they round down ;_;.



HA! your name is gannondorf backwards!

here's double weather, gonna need to go to a cloister for triple

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/944...0410185756.png

[nitsuj]

What do you so in Einherjar on SMN? Is it more effective than any other jobs you may have?

[frodnonnag]

What do you so in Einherjar on SMN? Is it more effective than any other jobs you may have?

summoner is my only 75 job on the character. generally i do dream shroud and earthen ward on blm pt, if i'm in DD i do hastega and earthen ward. i mix in damage pacts when i can. odin is usually burned with 4-7 smn, and a bunch of rng.

[nitsuj]

summoner is my only 75 job on the character. generally i do dream shroud and earthen ward on blm pt, if i'm in DD i do hastega and earthen ward. i mix in damage pacts when i can. odin is usually burned with 4-7 smn, and a bunch of rng.

Yeah I go SMN/SCH on Odin for sure. Other tiers I usually COR/WHM (shush) in the Black Mage party, as SMN seems less effective. But I'd love to try it sometime.

After 140k ichor I think I've earned the right to try SMN more :D

edit: lol at your imageshack photo being "porn".

Mmmmmm Elemental Siphon porn...

[frodnonnag]

Yeah I go SMN/SCH on Odin for sure. Other tiers I usually COR/WHM (shush) in the Black Mage party, as SMN seems less effective. But I'd love to try it sometime.

After 140k ichor I think I've earned the right to try SMN more :D

edit: lol at your imageshack photo being "porn".

Mmmmmm Elemental Siphon porn...

my blm pt setups for ein and dyna are usually 4 blm, me and a cor. smn and cor really compliment a blm party for buffs.

[Nirokun!]

I'd like to be able to merit everything fully, but given what i've used smn for, i'm staying fully physical. i have blm (and upcoming sch) for magical damage, blu for melee and /thf-type damage. But smn is unique in its style of damaging things (with suicide kiting and BP=>Release), and i feel that, given my jobs and how I like to use smn, upping the physical side (yet again ) will only make it stronger in what I want it to do.

I'm close to cap on smn magic (just missing marduk tiara [2/3, stupid poroggo]), and i still want those acc merits for regular melee hits :3

i need to sit down and think about which tier2's i want to cap, but leaning on wind blade (because garuda is gewd, and shiva because...i unlocked hers already ;3)

[Rakshaka]

Here's what summoners do in Einherjar

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...603_213542.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...506_213450.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...202_222212.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...210_222104.png

Fun times in SummoningCircle :D

[DAKPluto]

summoner is my only 75 job on the character.

Ah...that's why they didn't LM-11 you.....they felt pity, lol

[frodnonnag]

Ah...that's why they didn't LM-11 you.....they felt pity, lol

i got hit with a 3 day, anyone in my group who got a big 35 piece got perma'd, i think we lost only 2 people.

[Indalecia]

SMN orgy...

Daddy like...

[Reapz]

Thats alot of SMN

[frodnonnag]

Just finished the expansion, even though it was really short I thought it got good toward the end and was well worth the money. We went 1/2 on the last fight, wiped about 30% because our setup was PLD WHM RDM SMNx3 and the RDM was nuking Thralls so eventually ran out of mp and died. Had 7 people originally (one was someones mule WHM) so had the mule sitout and change a couple of jobs around to PLD WHM RDM SMNx2 RNG and then won easily, RNG focused on Thralls and SMN would helpout if they started spawning like crazy. Found the fight fun! Not hard really just an endurance thing so it was enjoyable.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7.../Redingote.jpg
My choice of armour/augment

bah! perp-2 is a red herring! the difference between 1 and 2 perp is 20 mp a minute. the better setup would be pet matk/macc and pet atk, you just cant get these stats any other way!

[Reapz]

Sorry edited because I meant to put it in the ACP thread hehe. Reason I chose Perp was because I didn't want to buy a Penance, Macc/Matt is obvious choice but as for augmenting the Attack meh, prefer Crit+3% on AF2 for physical bps (4% if stupid -1 would drop)

[frodnonnag]

Sorry edited because I meant to put it in the ACP thread hehe. Reason I chose Perp was because I didn't want to buy a Penance, Macc/Matt is obvious choice but as for augmenting the Attack meh, prefer Crit+3% on AF2 for physical bps (4% if stupid -1 would drop)

yeah, but pet atk+15 is a huge bonus, maxing out atk in merits only gives +10

[Reapz]

yeah, but pet atk+15 is a huge bonus, maxing out atk in merits only gives +10

And yet even with maxed atk merits I don't see much difference to people who aren't merited because of how random physical bps are lol. I'm sure I will regret the perp-2 at a later date if SE decide to add another permanent -perp piece better than penance/redingote but can always redo the fight to change