Unannounced fixes/adjustments/nerfs/etc. (4/8/09)

[evilpaul]

Unless they updated it after reading this thread, I'm pretty sure the -50% damage for leeches and whatnot have been that way for a long time/always.
Vana'diel Bestiary - Thread Leech
Category:Leeches - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki
Both have it listed already.

[Suiram]

I think the ghosts have been that way for a long time, too, the Ice magic part anyway. I remember KRT manaburn rule (and Vrtra add pt) being, "Ghosts take cut from ice, but can be slept by BLM, Skeletons take full damage from Ice, but may resist slightly more, and can't be slept by BLM."

[Kaeko]

Unless they updated it after reading this thread, I'm pretty sure the -50% damage for leeches and whatnot have been that way for a long time/always.
Vana'diel Bestiary - Thread Leech
Category:Leeches - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki
Both have it listed already.

Hm maybe this is old stuff I just never knew about it.

Did enfeebles operate under this principle then as well? Perhaps all they did was extend the elemental resistance not just to damage, but durations as well.

Possibly back to the drawing board.

[Oblongs]

To add to the observation, enthunder (1) was dealing about 8 damage per spike to Jotunn (WAR type) on Floor 12 Upper Delkfutt's Tower, whereas enblizzard (1) was dealing 17 points of damage per hit. Not sure if en spell really counts but oh well.

Yes, enspells are affected as well. Had same thing happend with both enspell 1's and enspell 2's.

[pchan]

Just did Bionic bug ; Usually the bugwear would not resist sleep/bind/gravity until late (definitely past 50% HP), this time it resisted gravity 3x in a row from start. Throughout the fight it resisted sleeps bind gravity etc. Couldn't nuke > sleep it like we usually do, we had to dot kill it..

[Yugl]

The distribution is really fucked up, no it's not just limited to HNM.

Positive were effected:
All leech-type mobs - to water only, test done by kaeko
All bat-type mobs - to dark sleeps
Ouryu, King Vinegaroon, Fenrir, Tiamat, Fafnir, Nidhogg - Sleeps on all sleepable ones, grav on KV and fenrir, bind on fenrir

Pretty sure were effected:
Zipacna - Bind
Faust - Gravity and Bind

Were NOT effected:
Plain demons in dynamis-xarcabard
Chigoes in t1 einherjar
ordinary tonberries in den of rancor
ordinary scorpions and crabs in toraimarai

This is a pretty shitty list, but maybe people can add to it? The mobs effected by it seem to be guaranteed a half resist, regardless of magic accuracy or elemental seal.

That seems terrible. I have Omega coming up soon, so I'll try to see if ES + Elegy has been "adjusted" on him as well.

Edit: Kaeko, new character or using another account?

[evilpaul]

He's an mystery Tarutaru RDM on an unspeicified server now.

[TaruMortis]

Imps in Einherjar were fully resisting Ele seal SleepagaII

[Silenka]

In reverse, I noticed that both of the RDMs in range in Dyna-Tav today resisted petrify from the worm NM...

[Thorny]

In reverse, I noticed that both of the RDMs in range in Dyna-Tav today resisted petrify from the worm NM...

RDM has resist petrify, hun.

[Aksannyi]

Duh, but really how often does that shit proc?

[Thorny]

It seems to be about 5% per trait to me, so at RDMs level 4 the chance of resisting would be ~1/5 and the chance of both resisting would be ~1/25. That's not really rare enough to say it's any issue that's effecting players, BRD in my salvage group went through half a stack of echos in powderkeg room monday(and brd has resist silence) >.>;

[Silenka]

Duh, but really how often does that shit proc?

Yes, I was talking about the fact that it proc'd on both of them. It doesn't often happen.

[Aksannyi]

Honestly I can count the number of times I've had an actual "Resist!" go off in the years I've been playing this game on one hand. Rare proc is rare.

[Sonomaa]

Major undocumented changes can go fuck themselves
documented changes with explanations are great, even if its simple
nobody likes surprise sex except the giver (gtfo you sadomasochists), but everyone loves to get laid after a nice dinner

[Kaeko]

Kaeko, new character or using another account?

New server, new character, but I still have my brothers' account on Odin to chat with.

On topic, the resist rates from traits could have easily been changed as well, so stuff like RDM resist petrify may be a good idea to test out. Might be easier to test something that is more common than petrify status though, like resist bind vs. the nasty Orc bindga campaign NM.

[Callisto]

For what it's worth I can't land a full Poison II on Hpemdes for shit, 1m duration every single cast, guessing they got some sort of water resistance buff like the other various mobs.

[Cesaria]

New server, new character, but I still have my brothers' account on Odin to chat with.

On topic, the resist rates from traits could have easily been changed as well, so stuff like RDM resist petrify may be a good idea to test out. Might be easier to test something that is more common than petrify status though, like resist bind vs. the nasty Orc bindga campaign NM.

Our PLD's resist sleep trait was kicking in a lot during exp yesterday on imp sleepga. If they've mucked with resist trait levels it would explain the issues that were going on with BST charm on mobs that had an innate charm resistance when they made mandagora/cactuar/slimes (aka: all the fun pets) immune to charm pre-emergency maint and we couldn't figure out what the hell they'd been fiddling with to fuck that one up.

Edited to add: Pashow Marshlands campaign on RDM would be a good way to test the resist petrify thing when Gigi and his pieste crew are around - or abuse good old Dynamis-Bastok - but we all fucking hate Dynamis-Bastok.

[Nevex]

Casting Barstone as RDM made me resist Campaign Gnats' Cimicine Discharge (aoe slow) quite a lot.

Also NW Apollyon is severely affected by this change from what I can tell, as solo/duo goes at least.
Gravity would occasionally wear after 15s or so as 321 Enfeebling skill RDM on regular mobs and almost instantly on Zlatorog, BLM's Bind and Gravity would near-instantly wear on Behemoths and had problems landing Sleep on Ghosts.

[Destinye]

Resist Petrify kicked on for me a lot during Dynamis-xarc with that level 5 petrify bs...as SCH/RDM. So yeah, SE made them stronger apparently which isn't that bad for players and was one of the more complaints next to killer traits being nerfed.