Unannounced fixes/adjustments/nerfs/etc. (4/8/09)

[Dimmauk]

I heard Omega was resisting slow and elegy, which made tanking very difficult. My LS is doing Omega this Saturday, so I guess we will find out.

[urat]

Trumpet shells seem to have been gimped pretty hard... Used to be able to pull up 100-150 in 7-8 hours of fish (fish for 2-3 hours at night, another 2-3 in morning, and 3-4 when I get back from school)

This time, after all this fishing, I pulled up a whopping 60. Bite rates went from decent to atrocious, their stamina seems to have been jacked up a notch, and they've turned into bitches in general...

Used to have a bite rate of every 3-4 casts, now I've had to wait 15-20 casts between shells, can barely pull in 3 an hour...

Can any other fishers confirm this bite rate, or maybe I was just having a bad day...

[Gergall]

Trumpet shells seem to have been gimped pretty hard... Used to be able to pull up 100-150 in 7-8 hours of fish (fish for 2-3 hours at night, another 2-3 in morning, and 3-4 when I get back from school)

This time, after all this fishing, I pulled up a whopping 60. Bite rates went from decent to atrocious, their stamina seems to have been jacked up a notch, and they've turned into bitches in general...

Used to have a bite rate of every 3-4 casts, now I've had to wait 15-20 casts between shells, can barely pull in 3 an hour...

Can any other fishers confirm this bite rate, or maybe I was just having a bad day...

I know this is highly anecdotal but I was doing the Bastok quest where you run through Vunkerl. As I passed a fisher on the west bridge, he pulled up a trumpet shell. As I passed him again on the way back 5 minutes later, he pulled up another trumpet shell. So in this extremely limited observation, he seemed to be doing okay.

[TybudX]

With 294 Enfeebling/Macc on BLM, PLD aern in one of the ix'drg rooms resists every sleep I throw at it. Went to check it out after seeing the "XXX has resisted the spell!" proc being spammed in the chat log during the last few Dynamis cities. Had never seen it before, from Dyna mobs or from camping aerns.

[tsola]

The distribution is really fucked up, no it's not just limited to HNM.

Positive were effected:
All leech-type mobs - to water only, test done by kaeko
All bat-type mobs - to dark sleeps
Ouryu, King Vinegaroon, Fenrir, Tiamat, Fafnir, Nidhogg - Sleeps on all sleepable ones, grav on KV and fenrir, bind on fenrir

Pretty sure were effected:
Zipacna - Bind
Faust - Gravity and Bind

Were NOT effected:
Plain demons in dynamis-xarcabard
Chigoes in t1 einherjar
ordinary tonberries in den of rancor
ordinary scorpions and crabs in toraimarai

This is a pretty shitty list, but maybe people can add to it? The mobs effected by it seem to be guaranteed a half resist, regardless of magic accuracy or elemental seal.

I just solo'd Zipacna yesterday and didn't notice anything different.

Can anyone elaborate on Proto-Omega resisting Slow/Elegy? Some people have been saying it's impossible to land now, and others insist that it wasn't affected. I usually bring a maximum of 8 people to Omega, and send extra people to farm chips. However if the slow/elegy thing is true, I'll just bring everyone to Omega.

[Crizto]

It's not impossible to land Slow2 on RDM, I was doing it frequently last night on Omega.

[Thorny]

I just solo'd Zipacna yesterday and didn't notice anything different.

Can anyone elaborate on Proto-Omega resisting Slow/Elegy? Some people have been saying it's impossible to land now, and others insist that it wasn't affected. I usually bring a maximum of 8 people to Omega, and send extra people to farm chips. However if the slow/elegy thing is true, I'll just bring everyone to Omega.

I had resists with club/shield, switched in terra's + AF body + enfeebling torque and had no problems.

[Spekkio]

I had resists with club/shield, switched in terra's + AF body + enfeebling torque and had no problems.

so it's impossible for shitty rdm w/o merits to score a hit. a good rdm who falls back on an accuracy setup over potency will do ok you found?

[Seraph]

so it's impossible for shitty rdm w/o merits to score a hit. a good rdm who falls back on an accuracy setup over potency will do ok you found?

I would give away every RDM/WHM enfeeble for the complete duration of Proto-Omega for a goddamn BLM that can stun 100% of the Colossal Blows I see.


Seriously.


With that said, it seemed people were having trouble keeping debuffs up close to constantly. There was a period of time last Omega where neither slow or elegy were on it, and it does make tanking it quite a bit more frustrating since you actually have to coordinate with your co-tank (and if you do not have a co-tank, watch your ass). Whoever was saying that slow/elegy were impossible to land either sucked ass or was lying. There does seem to be some truth to the increase in difficulty in landing them though.

[Dimmauk]

I wonder if the Ninja buff was due to everyone LOLing @ how easy it was to tank NMs with Slow and Elegy? I admit I was one of the people that was LOLing. Maybe we got a little too cocky?

[Thorny]

so it's impossible for shitty rdm w/o merits to score a hit. a good rdm who falls back on an accuracy setup over potency will do ok you found?

If you use a higher degree of accuracy, you'll do fine, yes. I wouldn't say it's impossible for a meritless RDM, seeing as I only cast in +38 skill(counting merits) and terra's and used mnd everywhere else.

[Cesaria]

Dynamis-Bastok tonight and the usual programming was in evidence in terms of the zone dropping utter shit - but the RDMs were getting procs on their Resist Petrify trait. This scares me - it's like finding an old friend you always laughed at is now suddenly useful and cool.

[Cairthenn]

Resist Petrify always worked for me if Scorpions happened to get it off. Not a full resist, for the most part, but I most always got reduced duration.

[Silenka]

Resist Petrify always worked for me if Scorpions happened to get it off. Not a full resist, for the most part, but I most always got reduced duration.

Yeah, I think there are full resists going on here for the most part. I really do think that traits got buffed.

[Francisco]

Actually, I've noticed a few "Resist!s" on Bind while subbing NIN recently.... Go Flawless Ribbon?

[Khalil]

I would give away every RDM/WHM enfeeble for the complete duration of Proto-Omega for a goddamn BLM that can stun 100% of the Colossal Blows I see.


Seriously.


With that said, it seemed people were having trouble keeping debuffs up close to constantly. There was a period of time last Omega where neither slow or elegy were on it, and it does make tanking it quite a bit more frustrating since you actually have to coordinate with your co-tank (and if you do not have a co-tank, watch your ass). Whoever was saying that slow/elegy were impossible to land either sucked ass or was lying. There does seem to be some truth to the increase in difficulty in landing them though.

I actually noticed the same thing. The day the second maint was done, we did a quick Omega. Normally before the update, Elegy/Slow landed without much difficulty, but after the patch, I found myself recasting Elegy after it wore off at least 3-4 times before it landed.

[Ratatapa]

Pretty sure it's all type on enfeelbes, exemple my sleep II last 30-45sec on a ronfaure rabbit.

Called a GM and said he's sad cuz he has problem lving his blm like that

but he doesnt know if it's intentional or what

[Reapz]

Pretty sure it's all type on enfeelbes, exemple my sleep II last 30-45sec on a ronfaure rabbit.

Called a GM and said he's sad cuz he has problem lving his blm like that

but he doesnt know if it's intentional or what

haha, they are supposed to know these things that worries me

[Ratatapa]

this is my discussion

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/724/gmtalk.jpg

While a ls mate got this


[Player]: "Since last update, it seems that on certain monsters and area duration have been halved"
[GM]: "I am glad to inform you that we are already aware of the issue and that we are working on it."
[Player]: "Oh ok, so this is an issue right ?"
[GM]: "Obviously for the moment it is not really an issue but it is just working as intended."
[GM]: "Though, we are thinking of maybe reverting this. The decision will be taken by the developers.
[Player]: "Nothing on the patch notes said that sleep resistance/duration was revamped"
[GM]: "It was written that some of the fights were ajusted, and this was a part of the ajustments."
[GM]: "But I agree that the full detailed list of the ajustements were not provided."
[GM]: "Anyway, for the moment you will have to work it out with this spell duration."
[Player]: "Ok, so for now and until next update it'll remains like this ?"
[GM]: "Yes, and there is no proof that this will change anytime. We are just thinking about it"

[urat]

Yeah I'm noticing a huge boost in my resist rates too, resisted pretty much every sticky thread thrown move thrown at me in mount camp, was pretty sweet I have to say.

On the other hand, all my gazes and flourishes seem to have been dropped down significantly, and I'm having a hard time stunning with violent... Which is a very very bad thing for soloing D: