Unannounced fixes/adjustments/nerfs/etc. (4/8/09)

[Kerberoz]

ACP body is the only piece with QD delay on it. Otherwise you can only get it with merits.

[Eldelphia]

Casting Barstone as RDM made me resist Campaign Gnats' Cimicine Discharge (aoe slow) quite a lot.

Also NW Apollyon is severely affected by this change from what I can tell, as solo/duo goes at least.
Gravity would occasionally wear after 15s or so as 321 Enfeebling skill RDM on regular mobs and almost instantly on Zlatorog, BLM's Bind and Gravity would near-instantly wear on Behemoths and had problems landing Sleep on Ghosts.

We didn't have that problem really, although I did notice more resists from our less well-geared mages.

[Khamsin]

Well, I meant more in reference to aznmajiktaru suggesting tummie's post may work for BST. I was wondering if you can apply the same principle to other -delays the ACP bodies have to offer.

[aznmajiktaru]

nah was saying even if it did work for call beast you'd only be able to have one beast out anyways so it'd be pointless. For the smn thing though.... that could be worth testing but since QD works on charge systems it shouldn't work >_>.

[Jem]

So that means that effectively anything that can be reliably slept can be perma 'stunlocked' by a COR spamming Light Shot until it dies then?

[Dimmauk]

So that means that effectively anything that can be reliably slept can be perma 'stunlocked' by a COR spamming Light Shot until it dies then?

Can some check to see if the QD thing is still messed up?

[Jak]

Yes, it's still borked. Came home from work just to try it out. Poor goblins in altepa didn't stand a chance. And it was super easy to figure out how to do.. now to hope I don't get perma'd! :D

[Yugl]

So what's going to be the excuse this time around? SE didn't physically restrain you or bad programming?

[Sehi]

Ok, so forgive me if this is something already known. Ive low manned Ix'Drg before and never had anything like this happen to me in the past.

I was duoing Aerns to pop IxDrg as usual, which was for sure more of a pain in the ass than normal due to enfeeb duration/resists. After missing a sleepga on a earth ele and aern i ran thru the portal we were at, and I was safe. Started bithcing about SE, then to my shock I see the Aern literally push his way thru the portal, kill me, then zone back thru.

Has anyone else seen something like this before? And if its new does this mean goodbye to low man Ix'Drgs?

Screenshot provided to show my zone thru then death like 30-40seconds later

edit: maybe the aern heard me talking shit about SE.........

[Kerberoz]

Did more than one person in your party have hate? It's always done that if you zone while in a party.

[Sehi]

Was only me with hate cause blm was already dead. We had actually zoned a few things earlier in the night just fine, so Im not sure what made this guy different

edit: but the way u said it, this sounds pretty normal. So disregard if so.....

[arshesney]

Was it the same Aern? You might just got (really) unlucky and linked the aern standing the other side of the zoneline, which it linked the other aern nearby that happened to be close enough to track you down in the other room.

[nednerb]

Ok, so forgive me if this is something already known. Ive low manned Ix'Drg before and never had anything like this happen to me in the past.

I was duoing Aerns to pop IxDrg as usual, which was for sure more of a pain in the ass than normal due to enfeeb duration/resists. After missing a sleepga on a earth ele and aern i ran thru the portal we were at, and I was safe. Started bithcing about SE, then to my shock I see the Aern literally push his way thru the portal, kill me, then zone back thru.

Has anyone else seen something like this before? And if its new does this mean goodbye to low man Ix'Drgs?

Screenshot provided to show my zone thru then death like 30-40seconds later

edit: maybe the aern heard me talking shit about SE.........

Ix'Drg always had party/alliance hate even if a player does no action to it, u cant dot zone it if you are in a party it will run through the portal and rape you. Dot zone out of party and team up at 5% to go and just nuke the shit out of it.

[MaachaQ]

Emergency Maint announced for 10-12 PDT today, wonder if they might actually have listened to us...

[hypnotizd]

Has anyone else seen something like this before? And if its new does this mean goodbye to low man Ix'Drgs?

Screenshot provided to show my zone thru then death like 30-40seconds later

edit: maybe the aern heard me talking shit about SE.........

I was doing an Ix'DRG party about a month ago, cleared rooms 1-3 and decided to sleepga->aga the 3 aerns in room 4. Unexpected things happened and we had to zone >.> So we sleepga zone through Room3/Room2 portal and start resting. Next thing we know the Aw'aerns are coming for us.

Long story short, we escaped out and did rooms 1-3 again and Ix popped on 4. The same room where those Aw'aerns didn't lose hate and followed us through the portal. Is the placeholder treated like a NM and doesn't lose hate? Coincidence?

[Ronfar]

Don't aerns have party hate? I know the Ix'drg does because when we low man it we each solo nuke not in a party and zone. at 10% or so party up and kill it.

[Daiiawn]

It happens, 2nd blm was still alive and on hate list as you died, so would have gone something like this.

You top of hate list, other blm 2nd (may be other way round, both on hate list anyway)
You zone, aern switches to next person on hate list
Aern takes a swing at 2nd person and they die
Aern rechecks for you as you are still at hate list
Aern finds you other side of the zone, starts to come to you probably linking half the zone :D

[Sephknight]

I had the same happend to me with Ixaern, called gm said was normal, was a while back to .He crossed zone and created havok.

[Eugene]

Regardless, zoning itself does not reset hate. The mob has to check for you on the hate list and not find you to have your hate taken off the list. if multiple ppl had hate on the mob, one person zoned while the mob was tracking another person, the person the mobs were tracking zoned, they would go to the next person on the hate list (who already zoned) gets the targeted hate.

Even if its one mob, runs through the portal, picks up links, finds you other side all resting (which generates hate in party) you all have hate again.

GGPO.

This is why the only way to lose ix aern if multiple ppl have hate is to zone all at the same time. mob checks person a (with highest hate), can't find them, checks person b(next highest), can't find them, checks person c(lowest hate), can't find them, nobobdy on hate list, resets.

[Daiiawn]

I had the same happend to me with Ixaern, called gm said was normal, was a while back to .He crossed zone and created havok.

Yeah ix will do that, they have party hate, so if you are doing the zone/nuke method for drg you absolutly must break party before starting or he is just gonna keep going through