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  1. #1461
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin Harvest View Post
    As someone who has gone to salvage everyday for 8 months and has only seen 1 pair of usu legs, this is a pretty idiotic statement.
    "8 months of Salvage" is the kind of vague, time-limited statement I can't accept. Did you do Arrapago every day for 8 months? Did you do 20 runs and get lucky on a drop and then move on to another zone? In that case you'd be boosting your stats needlessly.

    Even if you did a daily rotation of zones you'd still be 1/50~60 which is not a bad rate for one item in Arrapago.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiGaruda View Post
    The new pchan?

    I'M NOT AFRAID TO STATE I AM RIGHT FOR A FACT WHEN I AM ACTUALLY WRONG. RAAAGGGGEEEE
    I'm not stating facts, I'm expressing my opinion on an online bulletin board and you're the one dragging silly impertinent memes into the discussion. Tell me, who's being the most reasonable here?


    ps. inb4 shitstorm because someone goes against the general notion that Salvage droprates suck

  2. #1462
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    If you backtrack and follow my posts you'll see me keeping track between LJ/KI/BG over the past year or so. I've uniquely done SSR and BR for the past 6 months or so at least 3-4 times a week. Done maybe 10 other runs. For the last month I've done SSR or BR daily/stacked tags and gone twice.

    My first run leading my EX group on Hades gave Morrigan Body, the next run gave Morrigan Body and Ares Body, and the run after that gave full drop Chariot. I've only seen 1 of each Body since then, and those EX runs were February 2008.

    Salvage drop rates do suck, even if they're occasionally nice.

  3. #1463
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephr View Post
    I have no qualms calling out people for boosting their stats to make their QQing look justified?
    In this situation, you are implying that said people are lying - leaving no room for personal error on your part in judgement of character - so yes, you are stating a fact.

    I ask again, do you look like this child?

    http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...me-Child-3.jpg

  4. #1464
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    thats one creepy looking child. thought it was a doll at first

  5. #1465
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephr View Post
    What makes me a fucking idiot? The fact that I have no qualms calling out people for boosting their stats to make their QQing look justified? This thread is filled with such negativity, any screenshot of a drop is just followed by 5 people going "0/3000+++" or "haven't seen that drop in 5 years" from people that probably go twice a week or less. It's lulzworthy.
    I like how you inserted a qualifier, there. It's adorable.

    I also enjoy what it implies. I guess everyone else just isn't as hardcore as you.

  6. #1466
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephr View Post
    What makes me a fucking idiot?
    The fact that you're a fucking idiot makes you a fucking idiot. One group's drop rate =/= another group's drop rate. One of my friends had never seen Skadi Feet 35 off Chariot for MONTHS of spamming AR off & on, while my group was pretty much throwing them away every other AR. I was also 1/39~ or so on Usu Feet 35 which is beyond morbid for a rampart (that's 1/39 on Bee popping and not dropping btw~).

    Protip: Get the fuck over yourself lol.

  7. #1467
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephr View Post
    I find it hard to believe that people can go over 200 runs without seeing a certain piece of armor. I have 19 completed pieces over a 2 or 3 year span and it's never taken me more than 30 consecutive runs (I go every day) of a certain zone/route to see the drop I wanted. In the meantime, though, I have seen people QQ and up their 0/??s needlessly to get compassion from others, which in turn just boosts the notion that Salvage shit is hard to get because of the drop rates.
    Old group mate is 0/415+ on Macha's 35 coat. It's all luck. Some get lucky, some don't.

    I went 1/1 on my Skadi 35 feet piece, but heard of another person who was 0/250+ on them. Don't be hatin' on the unlucky people. ; ;

  8. #1468
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klutz View Post
    Old group mate is 0/415+ on Macha's 35 coat. It's all luck. Some get lucky, some don't.

    I went 1/1 on my Skadi 35 feet piece, but heard of another person who was 0/250+ on them. Don't be hatin' on the unlucky people. ; ;
    Yeah look at my Macha's coat drop.
    Over 100 runs at 2-4 rats per run = 200-400 minimum. That was the first one I saw. I guess this guy just has better luck than most. Salvage gear is mostly luck, even on 7 runs a week. Which is why I find those Salvage icons sigs pretty gay.

  9. #1469
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    No pictures but just got 25 Usu Head to become 4/5. Just missing the elusive 35 Usu Body. I'll post a picture of that when I get it.

  10. #1470
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    hahahaha i like going more often somehow affects a drop rate.
    you can go 0/200 going 200 days in a row, or go 0/200 over 50 years.

    learn statistics

  11. #1471
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    New thread Title: Salvage Dorp III: I find it hard to believe that your droprates suck. Cause mine don't.

  12. #1472
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    Strange, we just got out 5th usu body tonight.

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    I'm with Zephr, because I have a basic understanding of statistics. If you call hikazu kabuto a 3% drop(it's higher according to wiki and most experience), there's a 1/442 chance of going 0/200 and a 1/2028 chance of going 0/250. If you raise that to 5%, it becomes 1/28529 at 0/200 and 1/370765 at 0/250. Shit's possible, but it's not as common as the whiners on this board seem to think.

    As far as macha's coat, you get to kill the NM 4x per run.. so when bitching about droprates you need to take that into account. 0/200 becomes 0/50 runs, which is bad, but not nearly as ridiculous.

  14. #1474
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    take into account how many people are doing salvage, and chances are there really are a few people with those rates

  15. #1475
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Strange, we just got out 5th usu body tonight.
    I'm losing hope on that... just curiosity, is the wiki % too low or ? I'm missing only that fucking piece for the full set and I'm at about 0/21 since I'm in first line for it... stupid turtle

  16. #1476
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    SOLD'D
    http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9310/...0216044201.png


    Edit:
    Came in with 3 buyers:
    Morri hands 15: 1M
    Marduk body 35: 3M
    Usu body 25: 2M
    Ares legs 25: 2M

    8M in 80 mins sup

  17. #1477
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saber View Post
    I'm losing hope on that... just curiosity, is the wiki % too low or ? I'm missing only that fucking piece for the full set and I'm at about 0/21 since I'm in first line for it... stupid turtle
    lol

  18. #1478
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saber View Post
    I'm losing hope on that... just curiosity, is the wiki % too low or ? I'm missing only that fucking piece for the full set and I'm at about 0/21 since I'm in first line for it... stupid turtle
    She's in my ls, all true! we're spamming SSR 4 days at week from months ( other 3 days we have salvage ls event), and all we got is NOTHING. i'm about 0/80 on morri legs ( 1/120 on morri body, just to say...) ;___;

  19. #1479
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    New thread Title: Salvage Dorp III: I find it hard to believe that your droprates suck. Cause mine don't.
    Pretty decent first post. I approve.

  20. #1480
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    well I know there are people that got worse drop rates but there are also people that get them back to back

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