Elegy nerf or HNM Buff?

[sahearniitth]

Sleep is still problematic. RDM was having troble sleeping mobs in Nyzul post Ap 10th maint. As for Dynamis dunno about the time for bio/poison but I know on Wed BLMs had horrid resists on mobs. Dont know why SE hasnt picked up on it being an issue yet.

[evilpaul]

Is this only on Impossible to Gauge mobs? Or is BLM & SCH soloing screwed up too?

[Thorny]

Is this only on Impossible to Gauge mobs? Or is BLM & SCH soloing screwed up too?

It seems to only be on specific ITG mobs.

[Ophannus]

ES Sleep II lasted 40~ seconds on a normal campaign mob....

[Silenka]

What about stuff like ENMs? Is BLM duo Brothers totally fucked now?

[Thorny]

What about stuff like ENMs? Is BLM duo Brothers totally fucked now?

I'm not sure when this came into effect, but I did brothers with no incident after the version update that introduced the new stuff(before any emergency maintenances).

[Silenka]

That is good to know, but I'll be damned if I'm going to climb that mountain only to get a 30 second ES sleepII on the taur and get raped lol. I hope this gets sorted out soon >.> SE is retarded if they think that getting RDMs to melee in HNM situations is a good idea, and even more retarded if they think that nerfing debuffs isn't going to make people quit out of sheer frustration.

[Vegetatheprince]

i did brothers tonite, 2 es sleeps both shorter duration.

like 2 sec after we killed small one there was 2nd. I have a feeling MMM manaburning is over /cry.

hopefully ppl out there actually want to fight the nms twice a week now.

[Skjie]

Cool beans, RDM are melee now, enfeebling is for suckers.

[In Flames]

If you're duoing brothers the sleep duration shouldn't really effect you seeing as you still have 2 ESs. I did it yesterday morning solo as rdm/blm, my killing blizzard3 went off on the little one just as the big one woke up, lasted about 40 seconds. I'd say this is nigh on impossible to solo on blm though at the moment as you just can't get the nukes off fast enough.

[Renzy]

fighting Cerb now, still the same.. 4 minute elegy's
We had some strange problems with stun too, our RDM/DRK stunned the second they saw gates and we saw the "Cerberus is stunned" message, yet gates still went off.

[Cow_k]

This actually got my rdm mule killed today going up Delkfutt's. Slept a top floor bat with sleep 1 and it was over waaaaay faster than I expected which didn't end well.

[Sunrider]

Cool beans, RDM are melee now, enfeebling without tier 2 En-Spells or Death Blossom is for suckers.

<I'm interested.>

[Thorny]

So has anyone tested the tier 2 enspells and death blossom to see if those even help or is it just a big joke? One would think that elemental seal caps m.acc or comes close and at the very least, you'd be able to land full sleeps once in a while with it.. but you can't, implying it's a programming issue(or intention) not an issue of lacking m.acc.

[Skjie]

<I'm interested.>

I'm going to say that this isn't a m.acc issue, people are landing the spells, they are suddenly just getting a max of 50% duration. If this isn't fixed, there aren't words for how bitter I'm going to be.

[Aksannyi]

If this isn't fixed, there aren't words for how bitter I'm going to be.

^

[Kipling]

People hoping for blm update... but instead get this. Lovely.

[Zigfried]

Has anyone tried Bv2 since this? We did an Ouryu last night and it was an lolfest. 45 second ES sleep 2s, the elementals werent staying slept either. Didnt wanna do Bv2 if stuns gonna be fucked.

[Ahlah]

So has anyone tested the tier 2 enspells and death blossom to see if those even help or is it just a big joke? One would think that elemental seal caps m.acc or comes close and at the very least, you'd be able to land full sleeps once in a while with it.. but you can't, implying it's a programming issue(or intention) not an issue of lacking m.acc.

Spell duration is not a problem if ENII/DB provide sufficient magic accuracy for BRD and RDM to land debuffs without ES.

Even if ENII/DB work there are still other issues to consider. Composure (15 accuracy) and Auspice (10% subtle blow + overwrites enspell effect) are quite disappointing. Probably not a good idea to feed extra TP to Cerberus <25% hp. RDM can switch to ceremonial dagger + Enstone II to improve accuracty of stun spell.

[Aksannyi]

Who the fuck is gonna have their RDM melee on Bv2 so they can Chainspell stun ... seriously, if this is how SE intended it they are bigger retards than I thought.