Current Known Issues (Apr. 9)

[Antithesis]

Librarians are sexy?

[Seraph]

Hi, I am a librarian and I know next to nothing about coding.

What I can tell you is that if what you said was true, then either no major software project has ever done what you describe or the situation is not as simple as you make it out to be.

Errors happen no matter what you do and the larger the project the more likely errors are to occur.

As stated before, every update has problems is every MMO. SE is not unique nor alone and the problems are generally fixed very quickly.

I would also like to assert that the initial coding and design for this game are over 10 years old and trying to assign contemporary standards to something that was designed for several different platforms with different languages in a much different time is useless.

I have also noticed something about coding from my friends that do it for a living. Just because you know how to code your project doesn't mean you know anything at all about the next project. I have also noticed that my friends that do this for a living like to say that everyone else that works on other projects are idiots for not doing it their way.

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[Melios]

Librarians are sexy?

Haven't you heard?

[evilpaul]

Haven't you heard?

You just made me waste about an hour. Damn wikis.

[BadKarma]

Any word on when SE is gonna fix the ??? in Qufim

[Lishje]

Add this to the list.

They nerfed the melee puppet.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9634/423t.jpg

[Klain]

Serious? Fuck lol

[Lishje]

Ya =/ I is a sad Pup.

[evilpaul]

Can you do normal damage on mobs outside Whitegate?

[Lishje]

I'm a 110% certain that's not how it works. and I gotta go zeni farming, no time to test this crap on EP-T.

Sorry~

[Spekkio]

it's also important to remember that the code has changed hands several times since the basic groundwork was constructed. if code was poorly documented (and let's face it, most of it is it seems) then in handing it off, the new developer may not know some of the intricacies of the code that the old dev used to make it work better.

i'm reminded of a project i worked on in which a black magic function took several linked lists as input, with one of them having a pair of numbers representing coordinates as their data. the function was poorly named and had zero comments. the linked list came back from the function now as a set of pairs of points instead of coordinates w/ absolutely no indication of what was going on. since it used crazy computer vision black magic to do what it did, it took me a bunch of time to even figure out what the hell was going on inside it. i'd like to think i'm at least a decent programmer, and the guy who wrote it initially was a bloody genius, but because of the poor communication between the old and the new, determining what was going on was a real challenge and could have lead to glitches, despite both people working on the code being competent.

[Kyreth]

I think it's fair to comment on the work of people who are supposedly professional programmers that end up writing bullshit spaghetti code, even if you're not a professional yourself. Maybe we disagree on that point.

They don't call them "patches" for nothing.

Seriously, as the age of an MMORPG increases, the number of interactions that can cause major bugs to pop up does as well. Short of literally recoding the game from scratch, it's an inevitable result. And they don't do that.

[Kyreth]

That's the problem with large-scale programs like FFXI. I bet even WoW has these kinds of problems.

An easy bet, as it not only can, but does happen.

Just go check their Bug Reports forum. Perpetually full.

[Raithen]

Um, this is a new one to me. All of the NPCs on the airship for A Discerning Eye were exactly the same. I have never seen this happen nor heard of it before. Took pictures of all of them after losing my package to the first one. Anyone else have this happen?

[Destinye]

Um, this is a new one to me. All of the NPCs on the airship for A Discerning Eye were exactly the same. I have never seen this happen nor heard of it before. Took pictures of all of them after losing my package to the first one. Anyone else have this happen?

You sure? Slight differences...