Texas lawmaker has a suggestion for Asian-Americans

[BerenTebogo]

In light of the events of the past month I call for action from the moderators of BG.

All in favor of a LOLTEXAS subforum say AYE!

Aye!

[Plow]

Some people are missing the overall glaring point of WHO CARES IF SOMEONE CAN'T PRONOUNCE SOMEONE'S LAST NAME. No one ever pronounces my last name correctly, but I don't break a sweat and run out the room if someone stutters on it.

It make make voting a little more "difficult" (zomg ten extra minutes finding you on the address list "oh noes"). But really saying a comment like "please change your name so we don't have to stutter" is retarded and racist, simple as that.

Her answer was an extreme solution, to a minor problem. And she said it directly at the Asians. loltexas.

I think the issue is... why the fuck not?

Even if you want to be known publicly as Phaqhu Dham Ngyur, would it really be that big of a deal to have your official paperwork say Joe Blow?

[0ni0n]

I think the issue is... why the fuck not?

Even if you want to be known publicly as Phaqhu Dham Ngyur, would it really be that big of a deal to have your official paperwork say Joe Blow?

What's next? Everyone has to be Joe and Christian, look white and bear arms?

[GeneJackit]

I agree w/ a new forum for this sort of thing, but it should be labled:

"Can you believe these southern/prolly Texas/republican/conservative/religious/white people!?"

and we could all just post stories and clippings from newspapers across the country about these hilarious rednecks and just continue to laugh at all of their shenanigans!


God, could you imagine the mileage BG would get w/ such a forum? I would predict over a million views in 2 months...it would be just a great nexus of information and objects of ridicule.

[Jodwahh]

I have to say that I'm with Sath on that one.

[Charismatic]

In light of the events of the past month I call for action from the moderators of BG.

All in favor of a LOLTEXAS subforum say AYE!

Aye!

Should just be a 'crazy whitey' subforum

[Meat]

I just call them all chopsticks anyway

[burrito]

I'd say I'm suprised, but I've spent the last decade almost (I cry at the realisation I've been here this long..) listening to all sorts of hilarious mispronounciations of my last name.

What is it with old white women and the "granny 'fro" hairstyle?

[Maxxthepenguin]

This isn't racist guys. It's culturally douchey.

Let's get it right

[orinthia]

I remember in elementary school, one teacher had a problem pronouncing some last names. When she came up with a seating arrangement for the class guess where the weird-name people were? The last people to be called! I got put back there ; ;...

It is a little funny at times though. All you can do is just smile and say it in a way that's easy to repeat. Going through 20 or so years worth of people not being able to pronounce it right the first time, I'm only surprised at the ones that do get it right.

But, yeah texas...
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...1&d=1239385654

[Norelco]

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[Charismatic]

There's advertisements?

[Jazz Kazuko]

Yeah, that's kind of fucked up, but kind of lol too. I wonder if she thinks every asian is chinese.

My crazy mom made me keep my chinese name lol, she's like "face it, you're never going to be white, so like that slanted eyes of yours, you are keeping your authentic name." Yeah, she's really traditional. Luckily, my name is easy to pronounce like Lee. Besides, I'm 6'6 and everyone thought I was hawaiian or some shit like that.

But some chinese do need to change their name. Special case, this girl I know in high school, her family name is Ho. Yeah, exactly like that, Ho. So the teacher called her Miss Ho. It's hilarious on the first day of school as new teacher try to struggle across her on attendance. She went through hell. Man, if I were her, I would have changed it.

[Ksandra]

I think the issue is... why the fuck not?

Even if you want to be known publicly as Phaqhu Dham Ngyur, would it really be that big of a deal to have your official paperwork say Joe Blow?

Why? Is it really the end of the world to have to do paperwork with the last name Ngyur? Really? I'm trying to see where this causes a mountain of problems to the point someone should have to change their name.

Seriously, someone explain to me where at work the WHOLE DAY STOPS when someone shows up with an Asian name on their files.

Please give me some details plow, because I don't see how this is important at all.



Note I guess everyone should change their eye color to blue or brown, so the DMV don't have to stress out and can just keep their finger over the "B" button.

Hell, lets do blond or brown hair too to keep with the same rhythm.

[Tyche]

Why? Is it really the end of the world to have to do paperwork with the last name Ngyur? Really? I'm trying to see where this causes a mountain of problems to the point someone should have to change their name.

Seriously, someone explain to me where at work the WHOLE DAY STOPS when someone shows up with an Asian name on their files.

Please give me some details plow, because I don't see how this is important at all.



Note I guess everyone should change their eye color to blue or brown, so the DMV don't have to stress out and can just keep their finger over the "B" button.

Hell, lets do blond or brown hair too to keep with the same rhythm.

If it was really as simple as this, I don't think they'd of had a legislative hearing on it. They did, so it's quite obvious that problems are arising. Here's what the NASS says.

As citizens present themselves to various agencies, the
information they provide is subject to (a) a system requirements,
(b) a personal preference (or whim), and (c) data
entry issues. Most modern government systems require at
least name, birth date, and address as basic information,
and while some agencies require proof of these parameters,
not all do.

A citizen’s name is an area of particular concern. A name is
typically made up of five elements: salutation (Mr., Mrs., Ms.,
etc.), first name, middle name, last name, and suffix (Jr., Sr.,
II, etc.). Three of these elements, the first, middle and last
name are the areas of the greatest concern since not all
agencies even collect salutation and suffix information.

First names are a critical element to identity,
and also provide the biggest challenge.
This parameter is subject to tremendous
variety through the use of full names,
short names, abbreviations, variations in
ethnic spellings, and nicknames, all of which are impacted
by the whim of the individual at the time of registration. A
key example would be the name William, which is entirely
valid as William, Will, Willy, Bill, Billy, Wm. or simply W.

Middle names may or may not be available. In general,
abbreviations or nicknames are not utilized as frequently
as they are with first names, but it is
not uncommon for individuals to omit
their middle name, or use an initial in
one system and their full middle name
in another.

In some cases, individuals may have more than one middle
name, or variations in format (Lu Anne/LuAnne) that make
automated matching difficult. This can also result in parsing
discrepancies resulting from differing interpretations. For
instance, given a first and middle name of Mary Lu Anne,
some may determine the first name to be Mary Lu, while
others decide the middle name is Lu Anne.

Last names, although typically the
most consistent of all name elements,
can also be subject to variation.
Particularly in cases where a person
gets married, takes on the last name
of their spouse, and fails to update the agency with their
current information. Concatenated last names are increasing
in frequency, and can be subject to variations in data entry
that complicate the process of identity resolution. “Smith-
Jones” and “Smith Jones” may be identical in purpose and
structure, but can be difficult to distinguish programmatically.
Along the same lines, variations like McWilliams/Mc Williams
or O’Brien/Obrien/O Brien present their own level of
complexity.

The method used to store these various name parameters
can vary widely as well. Some systems may omit elements
like salutation or suffix, some may store each element in
a different field, some may combine multiple elements
(salutation, first and/or middle, last and/or suffix) in one or
more fields, and some systems utilize one free-form field
for all name elements. Parsing these variations reliably into
their individual elements is extraordinarily complex, and
dependent upon structure, content, and format.

With an increasing frequency of foreign names, all of these
problems become exponentiated since they frequently
contain additional elements and are ultimately subject to
wide variation and interpretation. For example, a Hispanic
woman’s name is a combination of first name(s), father’s
last name, mother’s last name and if a married woman,
husband’s father’s last name. Additionally many Hispanic
countries use the conjunction “de” to show it is a married
last name. All of these naming conventions are a variation
from the United States’ conventional use of first name,
middle name and last name that many statewide databases
are designed to collect and compare to determine eligibility,
identity and resolve duplicate voter registrations.
Add to this, the high potential for deviations in data entry
(use of hyphens or apostrophe’s, misspelling, transformation, …),
and we find that our primary means of distinguishing individuals
from one another is in reality a relatively unreliable
element. This may be of special concern when there is a
cultural difference of what is considered the “first name”
and “last name or family name.” Globally cultures have
their own rules as to how these names are applied and
used. In many cultures (notably Western, Middle Eastern,
and African) the family name is typically the last part of a
person’s name, while in some Eastern cultures the family
name comes first.

[Plow]

Why? Is it really the end of the world to have to do paperwork with the last name Ngyur? Really? I'm trying to see where this causes a mountain of problems to the point someone should have to change their name.

Seriously, someone explain to me where at work the WHOLE DAY STOPS when someone shows up with an Asian name on their files.

Please give me some details plow, because I don't see how this is important at all.



Note I guess everyone should change their eye color to blue or brown, so the DMV don't have to stress out and can just keep their finger over the "B" button.

Hell, lets do blond or brown hair too to keep with the same rhythm.

Tyche pretty well covered it, but to put it more simply it's because Phaqhu Dham Ngyur is the last name... or maybe the first name. Or maybe the middle name. Or maybe part of the middle and part of the last without any of the first. Etc.

[Correction]

Well shit I'm sold you guys, let's change every Chinese person's name to make life easier for the poll workers. God forbid we should act in the interests of the electorate we swore to represent instead of 'bureaucratic streamlining.'

[Yangsing]

She's just trying to bring change to the country

[gt_killa]

There are some names that are hard to pronounce in both white and asian, pretty much every culture has a few. The asian made an effort trying to pronounce your "American" name. Why can't you do the same?

[Khamsin]

Brown later told [Organization of Chinese Americans representative Ramey] Ko: “Can’t you see that this is something that would make it a lot easier for you and the people who are poll workers if you could adopt a name just for identification purposes that’s easier for Americans to deal with?”

I'm confused, why are they concerned about names on voter polls when the people they're talking about apparently aren't American? Non-Americans can't even vote, so it's a moot point.

Unless she was implying that Chinese-Americans aren't American, or something.