Gekko WS Accuracy Test

[Rionel]

Forgive me this if this is rather obvious.

But does this accuracy bonus apply to Yukikaze and Kasha as well? I only ask this because I tend to use Kasha more often.

Plus, it's annoying to hear people say that Gekko is the "strongest" one when all Y/G/K are completely equal... right?

[VZX]

The attack bonus from Gekko is the strongest from all 3. From my experience, none of those 3 weaponskills need different accuracy setup. With all that said, "Gekko is the strongest" is a correct statement.

[hagun]

Gekko is clearly the strongest. In terms of strength, Gekko>Kasha>Yuki.

[Baelorn]

It always seemed to me that the bonus applied to the first hit of every WS. Y/G/K all being one-hit just makes it more noticeable.

[Rionel]

Damn! ; ; I guess I was wrong on this one. Oh well, Kasha will always be my favourite.

The three damages aren't -that- much different anyway right?

[Shinryuu]

On easy stuff, the difference will be either 0 or very small, and Gekko gets stronger (relative to the other 2) the stronger the mobs get and/or the less attack buffs you get.

[Chantal]

The ACC could have something to do with level difference? Just wondering, I find it hard to believe that capped ACC on those would be practically guaranteed (on anything if its that much of a difference, lol).

But who knows, it's SAM do all 1-hit WS's get the same ACC bonus? Including relic/mythic WSs?

[Pyro187]

my sam always has some acc issues idk why it is but maybe ill have to start rethinking some things

[Colenzo]

From what I could tell is that the DA'd attack get some part of the WS damage. The reason I say this is whenever you score a zanshin gekko (1 tp return whenever you miss the first big hit that would do all the damage) you do about 400 damage or so with this zanshin'd WS. This would mean if your average WS damage was 1k or so and then you popped off a 400-500 damage zanshin this would support why you dont get two weaponskills in one etc. LOL zanshins

Idk how you would begin to calculate the accuracy on a double attack weaponskill seeing as if you missed the second hit you would still keep the same TP return anyways and it would look like a regular WS lol

[rog]

It always seemed to me that the bonus applied to the first hit of every WS. Y/G/K all being one-hit just makes it more noticeable.

yup. as far as i know it applies to all ws (except slugwinder). really this is nothing new.

Idk how you would begin to calculate the accuracy on a double attack weaponskill seeing as if you missed the second hit you would still keep the same TP return anyways and it would look like a regular WS lol

that's not how it works. i've seen multiple 1-2 tp jins (first, and offhand hits both missed).

[Colenzo]

jin is a multi hit, when you get TP returns like that you are missing the first hit of your WS
what im saying is if you WS'd like normal you wouldnt notice yourself getting less if it was a 17 TP return regularly, it would be 18 TP return if you was actually DAing your WS, what im saying is if you DIDNT DA your WS you wouldnt realize it because your first hit still made your TP return 17 and not 18

[rog]

i must have read it wrong lol. you're right, you can't really calculate accuracy of DAs, since there's no difference between DA procing and missing, and it not procing at all.

the closest you could get would be by getting a really huge sample size and seeing how far you get from the expected results.

[Chantal]

calculating accuracy (at least, estimating it) isn't too hard.

Let's say you do 100 WSs with 10% DA. Let's say you get 5 "Double attack" TP returns. since you know you probably DA'd 10 times, and 5 of those DAs hit, you'd have ~50% accuracy on your DA hit.

Putting zanshin in there messes with it a bit though lol xD

[Knyghtmayre]

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[Colenzo]

2 houring and missing every WS is pretty cool LOL

[Valyana]

Wing blind on?

[Knyghtmayre]

Nope, no wing blindness, Hasso was up.

[zard1977]

Same reason why some ppl get triple drops off Archiac Chariot and Madames.

[Colenzo]

in his defense niddy does have some pretty retarded evasion

[Aragon of Odin]

From what I could tell is that the DA'd attack get some part of the WS damage. The reason I say this is whenever you score a zanshin gekko (1 tp return whenever you miss the first big hit that would do all the damage) you do about 400 damage or so with this zanshin'd WS. This would mean if your average WS damage was 1k or so and then you popped off a 400-500 damage zanshin this would support why you dont get two weaponskills in one etc. LOL zanshins

Idk how you would begin to calculate the accuracy on a double attack weaponskill seeing as if you missed the second hit you would still keep the same TP return anyways and it would look like a regular WS lol

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the assumption Zanshin couldn't proc during a WS. What you're describing there looks like you DA'd your WS and missed the first hit, I've done this a number of times with SC getting a 1% return.