WAR and polearm

[Starr]

First off, I can name several situations where irl will outdmg gaxe. You realize some things are immune or extremely resistant to gaxe damage right?

Example? and which mobs?

[Yugl]

Let's continue to discuss Great Axe vs Engutso.

Why bother if you're going to continue to shoot every point with "Polearm isn't useful in most practical situations" anyways?

[Fridell]

All players on whatever job they play, and missing a set that negates damage, physical and magical are gimped, so is any player who doesn't equipment swap for ANY situation that might occur, I said ANY situation, for any melee, they need DEF set, EVA set, physical dmg down set and magical dmg down set, they also need Regen, at least 4 types of weapons, gear for level sync at any level, for any BCNM, and for any capped event, scaled gear wont cut it, it MUST be the best gear for that level or you're gimped.
Fuck off with stupidity.

Edit: Any serious WAR should have Polearm and gear for it, but it's still not gimped for the standard normal WAR you catch in Whitegate to own one, it's the casual VS the serious here.

[Yugl]

FM is a serious player. Much like how you criticize noobs for not having haste sets, he'll criticize you for not having Polearm sets. Deal with it.

[Starr]

Why bother if you're going to continue to shoot every point with "Polearm isn't useful in most practical situations" anyways?

Why continue to post if you add nothing constructive and just look like a whiny little bitch, I back up everything I say with numbers, data and logic, can't you do the same?

[Fridell]

FM is a serious player. Much like how you criticize noobs for not having haste sets, he'll criticize you for not having Polearm sets. Deal with it.

Who is this a response for by the way?

[Starr]

Edit: Any serious WAR should have Polearm and gear for it, but it's still not gimped for the standard normal WAR you catch in Whitegate to own one, it's the casual VS the serious here.

Not at all, it's the great players vs the OCD.

[Plow]

Example? and which mobs?

2nd floor apollyon SE is entirely immune to slashing. Greater birds have a bonus vs slashing and a weakness vs piercing.

[Starr]

2nd floor apollyon SE is entirely immune to slashing. Greater birds have a bonus vs slashing and a weakness vs piercing.

I can't believe I am reading this, this is pathetic.

[Plow]

Yeah, what's with these fucking people having examples when I directly request them.

Assholes.

[Yugl]

Why continue to post if you add nothing constructive and just look like a whiny little bitch, I back up everything I say with numbers, data and logic, can't you do the same?

Starr, you do realize you're the only one who looks like a whiny bitch right? It's sad that you're idea of a "Debate using numbers" is five pages of you calling people idiots and pulling numbers out of your ass. If you want to start looking like a competent debater, start showing the math where Polearm is a 3% DMG increase. You like to talk with math people right? FM is one of the top people (Thorny, Suiram, Shinryuu, and others along with him) on BG when it comes to math, and even he disagrees with your 3% DMG increase suggestion. Even he disagrees with the presumptions you present in this argument. The fact is, you're nothing but a phony. You act like a calm collected person who's seeking a debate, but you go fucking Hulk-smash the minute people disagree. If you cannot see the problem in approaching others like this, then you're severely lacking social skills.

Note: In all the pile of words I just posted, all I want to see from you is the answer to one question: How much of a damage increase is Polearm in optimal gear, and show me the math for it (WS AND DoT DMG). If I receive a response other than that (Especially one in which you attack me after I've yet to hurl name-calling at you), then you're certainly not qualified for this "debate" you humbly suggest you're hosting.

[Starr]

Stupid, rediculous, pointless and incorrect examples, reread what you wrote about Rocs then give me an example of where they are even relevant. 5 max on one floor of Limbus? lol sure worth changing weapons for.

[Starr]

Starr, you do realize you're the only one who looks like a whiny bitch right? It's sad that you're idea of a "Debate using numbers" is five pages of you calling people idiots and pulling numbers out of your ass. If you want to start looking like a competent debater, start showing the math where Polearm is a 3% DMG increase. You like to talk with math people right? FM is one of the top people (Thorny, Suiram, Shinryuu, and others along with him) on BG when it comes to math, and even he disagrees with your 3% DMG increase suggestion. Even he disagrees with the presumptions you present in this argument. The fact is, you're nothing but a phony. You act like a calm collected person who's seeking a debate, but you go fucking Hulk-smash the minute people disagree. If you cannot see the problem in approaching others like this, then you're severely lacking social skills.

Note: In all the pile of words I just posted, all I want to see from you is the answer to one question: How much of a damage increase is Polearm in optimal gear, and show me the math for it (WS AND DoT DMG). If I receive a response other than that (Especially one in which you attack me after I've yet to hurl name-calling at you), then you're certainly not qualified for this "debate" you humbly suggest you're hosting.

Read the Live journal thing that was posted, it is the most relevant and in depth math ever done on the subject and it says Engutso 6 Hit is 3% more than Fort Axe, that is where the number is from so I did not pull it out of my ass. You obviously didn't even read the linked math and are just being an arguementitive little bitch because you have nothing better to do than try and get at me.

[Plow]

Stupid, rediculous, pointless and incorrect examples, reread what you wrote about Rocs then give me an example of where they are even relevant. 5 max on one floor of Limbus? lol sure worth changing weapons for.

... You realize the rest of that floor is normal birds, right?

[Starr]

oh yeah, even still how many do you have to kill to go up a floor?

[Plow]

You're talking about the best coin farming zone in limbus.

[Starr]

lol you are making me very sad now

[Plow]

These are all impressive non-arguments.

You heard it here first, guys. Min-maxing is meaningless, zerg everything. 2 dead wars do the same as one live one, right? Fuck being prepared.

[Cream Soda]

Star is always right!

[TybudX]

Why continue to post if you add nothing constructive and just look like a whiny little bitch, I back up everything I say with numbers, data and logic, can't you do the same?

I haven't seen you post a single thing to back up any of your claims outside of selectively agreeing with information that is posted in favour of whichever side of the argument you choose to be on. All your data and logic is second hand.