why do people like xenogears so much?

[BRP]

Of what?

[#686578]

Most of the simulation games, The Sims, Rollercoaster Tycoon, etc, are often branded strategy-simulation. But I feel there's very little if any strategy in raising a pet dog, especially with the way most people play the games it seems it's just "Simulate real life... on your PC/console"

[drwaffles]

My Sims certainly never lead normal lives.

[BRP]

Games where there are very little strategy(to put it roughly) are not really games at all. They only look like games. Stuff like SimCity or raising a dog might have desired results, but their rules are not built around goals.

For example in a pure airplane simulator crashing into a building isn't losing or winning. In SimCity blowing your city to fucking pieces with tornados and shit is essentially the same as achieving utopia. I would go as far as to call them toys.

Now a game like Ace Combat has a goal, an objective.

Yeah, it is a shame these nongames get called strategy games. I think we are in agreement they shouldn't be called that?

I still find these nongames enjoyable to a certain point. Stuff like Wiifit is a joke because it is simple shit, but look into the flight simulation scene and it's incredibly interesting.


EDIT: Another incredibly simple analogy.

A basketball has no goal. You must add new rules to turn it into a game.

[Colenzo]

my favorite kind of games are where you make your own goals

[Colenzo]

and by goals i mean

[Colenzo]

fucking fat chicks

[Mizango]

Fuck that, im playing Xenogears again when I get home. I stopped half way through about 2 months ago.

I DOTN NEED A RESON OK!?

I mean my top 3 games are prob. FFT, Xenogears and Persona 1. And yes, I fucking love Atlus games. Fuck you guys.

[Mizango]

Banging fatties isn't a goal, it's a given. Fatties put out like nobody's business. They don't have the luxury to be picky. How do you think Charismatic gets laid so easily?

Husky bitches need love too playa.

[BRP]

Th best thing about fat women is that you can run away easier.

[Mizango]

Th best thing about fat women is that you can run away easier.

^

[#686578]

Well the goal is ultimately to have fun, unless you lose. Then you're a loser.

[Kuya]

PERSONA 4 IS SUCH A GREAT GAME OH MY GOD

[Shiroikage]

SimCity does have scenarios with tangible goals, though.

[BRP]

PERSONA 4 IS SUCH A GREAT GAME OH MY GOD

I usually call games like porn, but Persona is literally porn without the porn. The fuck.