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  1. #41
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    Didn't they do that already? iv seen many dead bodies when i pass by those forts lol, the mobs tend to spawn right on top of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancaster View Post
    I miss skilling-up in Campaign
    I never was able to Achieve this, >.> so you guys all suck that got
    to exploit this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orochi Lede View Post
    Didn't they do that already? iv seen many dead bodies when i pass by those forts lol, the mobs tend to spawn right on top of people.
    Maybe it depends on area? I know I seen a few ppl hitting forts in Campaign in Passhow when mobs were spawned and didn't seem to get aggro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knyghtmayre View Post
    20 minutes of beating a fort in Batallia netted me...
    http://i41.tinypic.com/4j9l60.png
    Mobs never came, so fuck you people.
    Yeah, some people did miss that point. Just because there is a Campaign it doesn't mean that the defending force will show up.

    Also, some zones are completely terrible to try to pull single mobs without horrendous links when there are no NPCs around. And by some zones, I mean the Crawler's Nest- trying to pull a single Quadav in the sack room can be pretty terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I will admit I'm glad SE nerfed it so the deadbeats can't leech EXP, however I think it was a bit too severe. However the best move SE could have done is just adjust mob placement when they spawn so ppl can't be AFK on a fort w/o getting killed.
    People said this about the brd song nerf and eventually got over it..so people will get over this and find something else petty to bitch about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    People said this about the brd song nerf and eventually got over it..so people will get over this and find something else petty to bitch about.
    Except bard bots didn't actually contribute in any way to campaign.

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    Sometimes I get to campaign and the battle ends while I'm trying to get tags. Dems da breaks I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    Sometimes I get to campaign and the battle ends while I'm trying to get tags. Dems da breaks I guess.
    And now on top of warping to a zone where the campaign ends within 5 mins wasting precious time, you now have campaigns where you will spend 15mins with nothing but fortifications up and the enemies will never load to actually gain EXP.

    Yet another un-needed nerf in an event that already technically capped out around 5kish/hr.

    No one liked AFKers on the fortifications but they could have solved this another way. Oh well.

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    Better, less-retarded way to fix afk'ers punching walls?
    Keep the same wall exp...but make defending forces pop more frequently.

    Then, non-afk people get more exp, afk people get slaughtered, and everyone has a good time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amentis View Post
    Better, less-retarded way to fix afk'ers punching walls?
    Keep the same wall exp...but make defending forces pop more frequently.

    Then, non-afk people get more exp, afk people get slaughtered, and everyone has a good time.
    And here we have a perfect example of how the situation could have been handled well without severe nerfs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    And here we have a perfect example of how the situation could have been handled well without severe nerfs.
    But! But! That requires thought!

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    I don't get why they nerfed skillups though. Just seems like a big "fuck you guys" to me. People skilling up were still attacking the mobs helping the overall cause at the risk of losing exp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JigglyJam View Post
    I don't get why they nerfed skillups though. Just seems like a big "fuck you guys" to me. People skilling up were still attacking the mobs helping the overall cause at the risk of losing exp.
    This is what i don't get either, it already carried a high risk, if you got hate or a wall of mobs saw you attacking there pal, you died and lost exp during skill ups, but further guessing means that they wanted people to still have an excuse to do Besieged since that is about the main reason to still do it...aside Gaining Imperial standing points.

    This might make lower levels around the 50 range attempting campaign to /wrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knyghtmayre View Post
    20 minutes of beating a fort in Batallia netted me...
    *snip*
    Mobs never came, so fuck you people.
    This is mainly my biggest issue. There were times where you'd sit there for 10/20/30+ minutes with no real enemy in sight other then the brick wall. Before, you could at least get 4-5k out of something like that, but now it's not even worth it. Without mobs there, people won't stick around and wait. They'll leave, the mobs will come, wipe out any NPCs there and repair whatever damage was actually done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I will admit I'm glad SE nerfed it so the deadbeats can't leech EXP, however I think it was a bit too severe. However the best move SE could have done is just adjust mob placement when they spawn so ppl can't be AFK on a fort w/o getting killed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Maybe it depends on area? I know I seen a few ppl hitting forts in Campaign in Passhow when mobs were spawned and didn't seem to get aggro.
    I have /a'd walls in pash countless times. And not once was I able to survive while mobs were there. Even if I got my ass moving right as they spawned I would still have one or two mobs chasing me down. Unless you have an overwhelming amount of PCs and NPCs and there's only a single Quadav unit, they'll kick the crap outta you for touchin that wall.

    The change to wall Exp was totally not needed.

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    EXP is totaly nerved on the box's
    I spammed all the steps I could as pld/dnc
    and I spammed WS every 100% after using all the
    steps alternating it up to Lv.5

    I left 30 minutes with no mobs @ 50/25 ;\

    but when mobs show up I average 3,300 - 7,000 a battle ^^

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    and so let's hope mobs show up sometimes
    LOL

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    This is why the Intel Advisers need to have an option to give us intel on an individual area, with info on defenders, not just attackers. And track the Dark Kindred's movements you slackers.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melios View Post
    Bastok on Asura has already returned to that.
    Siren's close to that as well, Beastman nearly have everything as of today.

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    Unfortunately, Kimiko is right, Siren had alot of people who would just afk the forts, but with ACP, and the fort nerf, this week has been horrid for Campaign, they should have kept the XP as it was, but just make the XP decrease the longer you do it and cap it, so that you couldn't just sit on the fortifications the whole time.

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    Based on what im seeing the areas that are already beastmen controlled stay that way because no one bothers trying to retake it, which is are staying that way. i mean if every area is taken over, i don't see much motivation of people wanting to retake them unless the NPCs spam them.

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