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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post

    Well obviously the player(s) needs to look into the manpower to Zerg. If that is a problem... explain why. Or don't bother, I already know Milk man couldn't tell me shit about how to be good at FFXI. That's why smart people trust Blue Gartr forums before him.
    I personally had a lot of fun just whittling down the boss. It may have taken 27 minutes to do, and the only damage may have been a Cor and my Smn (setup: Pld/Rdm Whm/Sch Smn/Whm Cor/Nin Rdm/Drk Blm/Whm), but I had a lot of fun doing it and we won with no near misses or recovery time either. The DLC could have been fleshed better, but I felt satisfied. I will go into the next two DLCs with a little more caution, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Actually, he didn't ignore that point. In fact, he mentioned that is the only reason people feel justified paying for the additional pack.

    Edit: Other packs have much greater "Replay" value since technically, areas are apart of packs and you do revisit many of the older areas.
    Yeah, like mentioned, you're wrong here. He never once mentioned any rewards other than the 3 bodies. Pretty piss poor journalism. What's new?

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    The content was definitely mediocre but the end reward was actually very useful for a number of jobs. The ACP body is irreplaceable for a number of a jobs.

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    So give the reward a B+, but the expansion itself still deserves a D- at best.

    Sometimes I think I watched different cutscenes from the people saying the story was entertaining. Several of the assault rankups were more entertaining and had better cutscene animation/effects... As far as story, there are several little quests through the game that were more interesting. The deluxe carbine gun quest was more interesting.

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    This easily could have been released as an Update.

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    Guess I'm one of the few who liked it. I really hate relying on others for mediocre things in-game, so I genuinely enjoyed the fact I could do the farming on my own, the climbs on my own, the gobs/mandys on my own, the CS's on my own, yet at the same time half way through I could grab a pick up group in Feiyin with their flags up for the first "challenging" fight. Lastly, for the mega boss I knew I needed a skilled group of friends which was easy to put together considering anyone can help to take it down. It was a fun fight that we took slow and steady while whittling him down as someone else mentioned, our DMG though came from 3 RNGs.

    So in summary I enjoyed being able to do most of it on my own, utilizing randoms half way through, and close friends for the last fight.

    The rewards were also plentiful, and will keep giving assuming people continue to farm keys. Can't please everyone though, you make it too tough and people cry, you make it too easy and they want more of a challenge.

    Don't get me wrong I'd rather just pay 10$ for the customizable body, but I didn't find it tedious to go through at all which surprised me after reading all these threads before beginning it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    Yeah, like mentioned, you're wrong here. He never once mentioned any rewards other than the 3 bodies. Pretty piss poor journalism. What's new?
    It seemed to me that he was referring to the body pieces when he was talking about the only reason people bother with the pack. The lines after that when he says that people would have rather bought the armor seem to include all the excess gear you can earn. At least that's what I thought he meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    Guess I'm one of the few who liked it. I really hate relying on others for mediocre things in-game, so I genuinely enjoyed the fact I could do the farming on my own, the climbs on my own, the gobs/mandys on my own, the CS's on my own, yet at the same time half way through I could grab a pick up group in Feiyin with their flags up for the first "challenging" fight. Lastly, for the mega boss I knew I needed a skilled group of friends which was easy to put together considering anyone can help to take it down. It was a fun fight that we took slow and steady while whittling him down as someone else mentioned, our DMG though came from 3 RNGs.

    So in summary I enjoyed being able to do most of it on my own, utilizing randoms half way through, and close friends for the last fight.

    The rewards were also plentiful, and will keep giving assuming people continue to farm keys. Can't please everyone though, you make it too tough and people cry, you make it too easy and they want more of a challenge.

    Don't get me wrong I'd rather just pay 10$ for the customizable body, but I didn't find it tedious to go through at all which surprised me after reading all these threads before beginning it.
    Pretty much this except for the fact that I've been too lazy to do the final fight yet, but I do have the key item for it.

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    I don't know why everyone is attacking the expansion. I'll admit for 10 dollars it sure felt short for 12 missions, a majority of which being cutscenes similar to Zilart.

    As for the final fight, it's not all that hard if you have the right jobs and no what to do. If you wanna zerg it just bring heavy DDs, a RDM/DRK, and pray to god a Charmga doesn't get through or you're screwed. If you want to do it the safe but long assed way get some SMNs, CORs, RNGs, pretty much any job that can do worthwhile damage at a distance and a PLD who isn't a total retard.

    I will admit the tower climb was kind of painful, mostly since if your PT doesn't stick together it can get annoying if someone dies.

    As for the reward, it mainly depends on what jobs you have. For something like job that can equip a Hauby it may not have a huge wow factor compared to a job like a COR with a body with MAB or MACC and Quick Draw -5.

    I'd say it was more QQing than anying. I think a F was kind of severe. If I had to give it a grade I'd say something like a C-. The rewards from the coffer in jeuno can have some nice potential (Seriously, an Earring with STR and R.Atk is a wet dream for any RNG or COR) and it was a new challenge to me. However the scenario lacked due to it's short length, the whole farming thing with the seed cyrstals/goblin key items, and pretty weak storyline that didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to me.

    I'm just hoping that this will be a learning experience for SE for the next two addons. Although if I get to fight a mutant moogle in the evil moogle addon I'll be pretty happy >.>

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    Lets all call him a leaky vag for not liking it.

    SE is a business.

    You didnt have to buy it.


    Etc etc. I dont remember all the cliches the ACP fanboys say.

    Some how I told you so just doesnt quite cut it here.

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    I would have enjoyed it more if Aldo wasn't such a fucking stale character. Young Aldo is even worse.

    Fuck. I hope the Shantotto one is better.

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    I think I would've enjoyed the story much more if the Serpent Generals quests didn't exist. As I was doing the missions I kept comparing the CS to those in the SG quests and the ones I paid for kept felling short of the ones I got for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Lets all call him a leaky vag for not liking it.

    SE is a business.

    You didnt have to buy it.


    Etc etc. I dont remember all the cliches the ACP fanboys say.

    Some how I told you so just doesnt quite cut it here.
    I told you so?

    You think Milkman's review backs up your argument. Somehow "you are a moron" just doesn't quite cut it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP View Post
    I told you so?

    You think Milkman's review backs up your argument. Somehow "you are a moron" just doesn't quite cut it here.
    My or any other person's opinion of Milkman aside, this is still a public review of the expansion saying exactly what me and alot of other people stated (and aparently pissed off alot of people).

    Calling shit for what it is and having a bandwagon league of alarmist freak out because you insulted their game is always lolable.

    And I dont think this will be the last article labeling this expansion scenario as a failure, if any more are done at all.

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    Aldo is such a boring and bland character.... its beyond me why SE even designed a tack-on story involving him. Fuck, Zeid is infinitely more interesting than Aldo if we want to talk about characters who starred in Zilart.

    Honestly the review was pretty accurate though id personally give this scenario a D. The "reward" for completing the expansion was great however at the end of the day the lorebuffs get nothing and people who just mash through cutscenes get a reward within 6hours.

    SE is supposed to be the master of storytelling but too much of the expansion decended into "get this and go here" with no reasons or logical explanations. Anyone even know why your sent to the Hall of the Gods after the Fei'yin incident? The plot-twist was also pretty lame and the ending changed nothing.

    Yay? Really... i hope Shantottos story is funny or at least mocks itself for our amusement.

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    I would love some more story with Zeid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Aldo is such a boring and bland character.... its beyond me why SE even designed a tack-on story involving him. Fuck, Zeid is infinitely more interesting than Aldo if we want to talk about characters who starred in Zilart.
    I dunno, the whole Aldo reuniting with his sister thing had some potential, but...

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    SE had to screw it up badly by making them forget their memories when the crystal is destroyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I dunno, the whole Aldo reuniting with his sister thing had some potential, but...

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    SE had to screw it up badly by making them forget their memories when the crystal is destroyed
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    That ending was a cop out pure and simple. Not only are our characters big enough jackasses to have not told Aldo and his sister about each other 5 years ago but they make it so we're assholish enough to not simply fucking tell Aldo to take a trip to Selbina at the end? is this some sort of cultural dissonance perhaps where volunteering information that important isn't consider proper because hes not a member of your family? I can put up with my character falling for Naja's tricks and being the butt monkey oF Tau but do they really have to make our characters jerks too?

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    The sad thing is that someone is actually cheating to raise the "user score". From D- to B+, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
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    That ending was a cop out pure and simple. Not only are our characters big enough jackasses to have not told Aldo and his sister about each other 5 years ago but they make it so we're assholish enough to not simply fucking tell Aldo to take a trip to Selbina at the end? is this some sort of cultural dissonance perhaps where volunteering information that important isn't consider proper because hes not a member of your family? I can put up with my character falling for Naja's tricks and being the butt monkey or Tau but do they really have to make our characters jerks too?
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    At the least they could have implied through text that Aldo would seek out his sister in Selbina. This way they could have her there and the scenario-completer could at least feel that they finally closed the book on this story. Instead we get an epic cop-out that invalidated doing the entire scenario. You'd think SE would at least understand that people wanted to unite the two characters in the end....

    Oh well... only solidifies that the scenario was just for gear.

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