KV low man?

[Leroy]

Does anyone have a low man strategy for KV? My ls is pretty small, 16 members tops, but a few of us want to kill this thing for the hat.

I'm not exactly sure if we can do a zerg since our strongest zerger is a DRK with M.Kris. Would throwing 6-7 BLMs at it and SC/MBing work or is it resistant to manaburn tactics? I'd really love to be able to kill this thing with my own group since we all tend to dislike the though of buying r/ex gear.

Any help would be appreciated.

[Thorny]

Does anyone have a low man strategy for KV? My ls is pretty small, 16 members tops, but a few of us want to kill this thing for the hat.

I'm not exactly sure if we can do a zerg since our strongest zerger is a DRK with M.Kris. Would throwing 6-7 BLMs at it and SC/MBing work or is it resistant to manaburn tactics? I'd really love to be able to kill this thing with my own group since we all tend to dislike the though of buying r/ex gear.

Any help would be appreciated.

~6 well equipped DD including a drg with angon + 3 brd + whm + rdm/drk + thf with feint, cycle brds through DD with soul voice night/troub so that they all get double mad, min, march, engage, 2hr, chainstun, ???, profit

DD don't need to be anything super special, just the basics(haidate/homam on applicable jobs, NQ dusk if no homamz, sub sam, don't tp in dex rings, etc).

Nonzerg strategy is rough because you're going to have severe problems dealing with tp while still outdamaging it's regen. Maybe 3 good DD/NIN, 2 BRDS, RDM, 3-4 whms or rdms in another party, 3-4 DD to swap in when other DD die.. THF for TH, 1 BLM/NIN to stun after earthbreaker and everyone bring antidotes(total of 14-16 people, and probably can win like that.. zerg only takes 12 with no souleater drks). This is just theory though, zerg works perfectly fine and isn't that hard to execute.

[Nicostrato]

A drg, 3 drk zergs with mkris, and a theif would be good as long as you had 2-3 rdm/drk's to stagger CS+stun and a few cor's and bards. Needs a few good whm's too. Oh, make sure your zergers are amazing at what they do. This is the lowest number i've ever seen KV zerg'ed by with my experience.

[Thorny]

A drg, 3 drk zergs with mkris, and a theif would be good as long as you had 2-3 rdm/drk's to stagger CS+stun and a few cor's and bards. Needs a few good whm's too. Oh, make sure your zergers are amazing at what they do. This is the lowest number i've ever seen KV zerg'ed by with my experience.

They specifically said they only have 1 drk with mkris, so I said options that were viable for them. Aside from that, you can do fine with 6 if you have 2 krakens(DRK DRK BRD BRD THF RDM/DRK), or 8 and the same setup with 4 mkrises. I don't really see a point in the dragoon, angon doesn't help souleater damage.

'a drg, 3 drk zergs with mkris, and a theif', '2-3 rdm/drks', 'a few good whms', and 'a few cor's and brds' is nowhere near lowman, at the very least that's 11.

[Arthars]

i dont think its low-mannable in a sense that you wanna slowly kill it with 2-3 people (real meaning of low man). the regen kinda make it impossible

this is prolly a "lowest man needed to zerg KV" question to me

[Killkenny]

Done it with 3 Sam, war, thf as melee before. Everyone was well equipped but not all relics and E bodies back then. The less people you take the more important your stunner is, 1 earthbreaker can slow it down long enough for things to go wrong with ~12. Don't need 3 brds, 2 is fine because even without feint 2 handed melees should have good acc (this obviously isn't taking into account M kris/ridill/K club drks who will all want madrigal and Feint). So if you do have zerg drks stick them in another pt and swap minuet for madrigals.

[euph]

1 KC

[Nicostrato]

I'm not exactly sure if we can do a zerg since our strongest zerger is a DRK with M.Kris.

I wonder what their "less-strong" zergers are, or if he meant they only have one zerger in general. Isnt Mkris slightly better than Ridill for zerg anyways?

[Antec]

Yes, Mrkis is a better zerg weapon than ridill. I took it as they only have 1 DRK w/ zerg weapon and rest were just melees.

[Overburn]

I wonder what their "less-strong" zergers are, or if he meant they only have one zerger in general. Isnt Mkris slightly better than Ridill for zerg anyways?

Could have Runic Chopper/Fort Zergs or Low Delay Dagger Zergers(Not really sure how good these are anymore?).

[Leroy]

Yeah, one DRK with a zerg weapon, the rest are just regular old WARs, SAMs, and a DRG.

[Colenzo]

If you want to low man it, you better have super decked DRKs on it with feint-thf. Otherwise it doesn't even sound smart to even attempt.

[Therin]

Beyond has zerged it successfully with 10 people, you just need a BRD, a chainstun, and at least 6 strong DDs.

[Killkenny]

6 Strong DD is overkill, the thing that will mess you up is when a single earthbreaker gets through. KV only has 25k hp and is much weaker to melee than Bv2 (its the closest comparison to this fight as it has same hp and completely reliant on sucessfull stunning).

9-10 people is possible with good melees (not drks), more people just provide more of a buffer against any tp moves that get through.

[Colenzo]

yeah ive done that before too, its just like that
we had 1 ridill drk, 1mkris, 2 K clubs on it and it just got dead'ified

[Yugl]

How much DMG do Kris DRKs do with almost full Homam + Swiftbelt + Turban for the duration of Soul Eater? I was thinking of having our two DRKs (One is as mentioned, but the other has no Homam and uses a Sword) 2hr to kill Omega quickly since it would save our Limbus group from having to constantly find new members once old ones get their gear. Would those two DRKs be enough damage to kill it? If not, about what HP% would Omega be at?

[Thorny]

How much DMG do Kris DRKs do with almost full Homam + Swiftbelt + Turban for the duration of Soul Eater? I was thinking of having our two DRKs (One is as mentioned, but the other has no Homam and uses a Sword) 2hr to kill Omega quickly since it would save our Limbus group from having to constantly find new members once old ones get their gear. Would those two DRKs be enough damage to kill it? If not, about what HP% would Omega be at?

You can kill omega easily with 6-8 without zerging it.. and this is a KV thread >_>

[Yugl]

You can kill omega easily with 6-8 without zerging it.. and this is a KV thread >_>

The main question was in relation to M Kris damage, which is related to this thread. I am aware that Omega is doable with 6-8, but I doubt it's as easy as your implying. Since most members aren't that well equipped, I doubt it's an option we can pursue at the moment.

[Thorny]

The main question was in relation to M Kris damage, which is related to this thread. I am aware that Omega is doable with 6-8, but I doubt it's as easy as your implying. Since most members aren't that well equipped, I doubt it's an option we can pursue at the moment.

If it doesn't enter physical resistant mode, a single kris with zerg buffs will take off about 30-40%.

[Therin]

I doubt it's as easy as your implying.

You can kill Omega easily with 2 tanks, a RDM, a BRD, two or three BLM/NIN, a pair of DDs and a healer for them. Any LS should be able to field that. Slow but smart damage is the key.