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  1. #21
    Ryko's Full of Lies and Johns
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    I want pizza rolls.

  2. #22
    THAT MACHINE IS NOT A SIR, YOU HAVE TO CALL IT "MR. MACHINE"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akanei View Post
    I want pizza rolls.
    YouTube - Ultimate Challenge

    here you go

  3. #23
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    Pay 'n' play.
    Could also stand for pen and paper, but those take no skill.

  4. #24
    Relic Weapons
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    The social interactions in an MMO are different from the social interaction in PnP. In an MMO what you say and do will have absolutely no effect on the world (except in very limited events). In PnP, your actions create a constantly changing setting.

    I'm not exactly sure you can call it challenging, but PnP games (at least with dice and combat/skill systems) require just as much skill as FFXI. I've played with a lot of gamers, and I can tell you flat out, no matter how obvious the rules seem, building optimal characters is not always intuitive. It is really the same in FFXI, while a good portion of the populace realizes very easily how to effectively build/gear a character, some just have no fucking clue. Character building, and taking optimal tactical decisions during combat are exactly the same for both rpgs. Only difference is in FF or any computer game, reflexes and quickness of thought/action also play a part.

    Either way, what is important is not whether it is hard or not (the DM/GM can always make things harder), it's whether or not the players are having fun. As a DM it is always important to keep this ahead of other conditions. Sometimes this means cranking up the difficulty, other times it means taking it easy and letting them recoup.

  5. #25
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    Dice = RNG
    RPG = RNG
    MMORPG = RNG

    Sensing a trend girls?

  6. #26
    Banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuemue View Post
    Dice = RNG
    RPG = RNG
    MMORPG = RNG

    Sensing a trend girls?
    But if you were skilled you could roll whichever numbers you want with the dice!

  7. #27
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    The only skill required is programming skill to write the bot.

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    lol AD&D

  9. #29
    ¯\(°_o)/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    So you're basically saying that the PnP experience revolves around the creativity and interpersonal relationships among the players, yet when it comes to player-invented challenges and the integral social element of certain PC/console RPGs, it all the sudden doesn't count?
    There's no comparison. And I don't mean that as "oooh one side is so much better," I mean that as in they're totally different things.

  10. #30
    Rainbow Dash was here,
    Applejack is a silly filly.

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    I read that as something something numbers you want with the dike and was like wait a minute here, I like lesbians, but dykes? Not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #686578 View Post
    I read that as something something numbers you want with the dike and was like wait a minute here, I like lesbians, but dykes? Not for me.
    dyke means the same thing as lesbian... I think you mean bull-dyke

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    If you PnP RPG, you actually ARE that character. If you only do it electronically you don't learn any of the powers. This is why nerds like Bagel are so fucking awesome.

  13. #33
    Rainbow Dash was here,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    dyke means the same thing as lesbian... I think you mean bull-dyke
    I always read dyke as bulldyke.

  14. #34
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    Shit, I need to play an elf next time so I can get night vision, or maybe if I roll druid I can play a bear!

    /eatspeople

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    Shit, I need to play an elf next time so I can get night vision, or maybe if I roll druid I can BEEEEEEE a bear!

    /eatspeople

  16. #36
    Genoslut
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    what the fuck? there's an edit button goddamnit, that's not even a good double post if you're trying it on purpose

  17. #37
    Canadian Fury
    MANITOBA IS NOT A REAL PLACE

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    Shit, I need to play an elf next time so I can get night vision, or maybe if I roll druid I can BEEEEEEE a bear!

    /eatspeople

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    Shit, I need to play a(n) ________ next time so I can get ______ vision, or maybe if I roll __________ I can BEEEEEEE a ___________!

    /_______speople


    ready, go

  19. #39
    Rainbow Dash was here,
    Applejack is a silly filly.

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    Shit, I need to play a(n) Genosync next time so I can get shit vision, or maybe if I roll Genosync I an BEEEEEEEE a shitty poster!

    /fucksgayspeople

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync View Post
    Shit, I need to play a(n) ________ next time so I can get ______ vision, or maybe if I roll __________ I can BEEEEEEE a ___________!

    /_______speople


    ready, go
    You know, most times I'm highly respectful and appreciative of men and women who try to make memes. I feel they are doing something I could never do, and thus have earned my admiration.

    But in your case, I just hope you get shot. Seriously.

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