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  1. #21
    Sandworm Swallows
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Just pointing out everyone whined a bunch and now something is fixed and that now we're being conditioned to think that whining on forums = results!
    Exactly right! I actually think it was probably the number of reasonable GM calls put in about it. It's also why I made the post about the suggestion e-mail. I don't want people to get the impression that bitching on forums alone does anything at all.

  2. #22
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    It's very possible a lot people submitted feedback through the proper channels, also all the GM reports probably helped. Not that I don't think peeps from SE read BG, but more so that I wouldn't be so quick to go from point A to point C on this one. I've seen a shit ton of crying on this forum about many things that are still the same.

    Even if it is correct that the complaining on the forums helped change it, well then I must say that's a good thing.

    It's all irrelevant because people are going to whine on forums no matter what, doesn't really need to change anything haha.

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    1. Make a change that messes up all resists
    2. Discover that some mobs are now uncharmable, and give charm a boost so that it goes back to functioning normally.
    3. Discover that all other resists are also broken, and undo the change from step 1

    Final result: Steps 1 and 3 cancel out, and charm is now better than ever? Not likely but it would be funny, and if it happens you know I called it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Just pointing out everyone whined a bunch and now something is fixed and that now we're being conditioned to think that whining on forums = results!
    If I whine enough will SE remove Colibri from the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    If I whine enough will SE remove Colibri from the game?
    Colibris are fun

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    Hurrah, atleast its been acknowledged now

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Hmm, now that they mention it, I may have noticed that something could be wrong..
    Lulz.

  8. #28
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    I hope they keep the Job Trait thing, but fix Enfeebs.

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    Yeah its cool SE recognized the issues, but when will they fix it? Today?

  10. #30
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    I just soloed Brothers and I can confirm the enfeebling nerf has not been fixed yet.

    Eseal + Sleep2 lasted about 40-45 seconds on the big one according to my time stamp logs.

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    Moved the post to the other thread.

  12. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    It's very possible a lot people submitted feedback through the proper channels, also all the GM reports probably helped. Not that I don't think peeps from SE read BG, but more so that I wouldn't be so quick to go from point A to point C on this one. I've seen a shit ton of crying on this forum about many things that are still the same.
    Whining and complaining on forums is only half of the equation.
    It makes issues known to other players, however, in most cases it is more effective to go through the proper channels (GM Calls/Email Support).
    Also, the tone and syntax of how you present your case has an affect on the reader as well. Thayos over on alla wrote a nice editorial on their front page for everyone to see (A proper channel being that they are a premiere site). It did not consist of foul language and whining, and brought up some serious questions that SE needed to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olbohn View Post
    I just soloed Brothers and I can confirm the enfeebling nerf has not been fixed yet.

    Eseal + Sleep2 lasted about 40-45 seconds on the big one according to my time stamp logs.
    Current known issues. That means it will be fixed in the near future.

  14. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    All the crying worked! I guess that means everyone should whine, bitch and moan more often right!?!??!
    This how you get things done.

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    The forum complaining would certainly be a lot less obnoxious if it didn't come with that self important perception that SE personally trying to insult people

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    Quote Originally Posted by spooky View Post
    I hope they keep the Job Trait thing, but fix Enfeebs.
    Same, I like the job traits. They should have done something years ago.

  17. #37
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    If we're lucky, they'll leave the resists adjusted on the HNMs (and leave the heightened player resists rates alone) but turn all other mobs back to normal.

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    Thank fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    Thank fuck.
    This post is totally Shark.

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    So did they fix the Quick Draw thing?

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