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  1. #21
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pindle View Post
    Except you didn't answer my question.
    I think originally it was //console and /console never worked, dont quote me on that though.

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    My typical Idle setup:

    Head: Austere Hat
    Body: Yinyang Robe
    Hands: Relic aka AF2
    Legs: Relic aka AF2
    Feet: AF+1 (Avatar perp -1, so yes there is ONE decent piece of AF+1, but that's it)
    Back: Blue Cape
    Waist: Hierarch Belt
    Ring 1: Evokers
    Ring 2: Tamas
    Earring 1: Loq
    Earring 2: Magnetic
    Neck: Summoning Torque
    Ammo: Fortune Egg/Phantom Tathlum
    Weapons: HQ/NQ staves + Staff strap

    A resting set with hMP+ would be good too such as Errant body and whatnot.

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    dude your signature is adorable o.o

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daquiri View Post
    so yes there is ONE decent piece of AF+1, but that's it)
    head +1 = smn skill +5 (yes I know that's not an upgrade), 25 mp (yes i know af2 has the same), mnd 6 (nice for stoneskin). Good piece.

    body +1 = 45 mp (max mp build for those of us w/o access to dalmy), hmp 5 (no need for errant unless you want it for stoneskin). Good piece.

    legs +1 = avatar acc, same as NQ, but -3 enm can come in handy, minor upgrade, decent piece.

    feet +1 covered.

    I count FOUR "decent" pieces of af+1.

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    I did feet and legs for smn af+1, wish I had done just the feet considering how I'm never on smn ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fogo
    head +1 = smn skill +5 (yes I know that's not an upgrade), 25 mp (yes i know af2 has the same), mnd 6 (nice for stoneskin). Good piece.
    Also, af head +1 is the best headpiece for spirit taker besides maat's cap

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    I am never going to upgrade the AF legs. I like my +10 evasion skill for my summoner idle set, even if its only a placebo. I actually have both of the items needed to upgrade another SMN af but I really have no need than the feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falisa View Post
    I am never going to upgrade the AF legs. I like my +10 evasion skill for my summoner idle set, even if its only a placebo. I actually have both of the items needed to upgrade another SMN af but I really have no need than the feet.
    I currently use marduk legs most of the time or the summoner's spats for the -2bp time. Till i find solid evidence that evoker's spats pet acc and summoning bracer's pet acc stack i might end up using the af1 legs more. I only use the af1 legs when im farming for the most part. I farm spider webs everyday and when i get a link i notice they have a hard time hitting him with those legs on so the evasion boost is noticable although on higher level mobs the avatars probably wouldnt evade much with af1 legs on.

    My current starting set for a fight is this: (as mp is used up on some of these i do switch out)
    Main - Bahamut Staff
    Sub - Staff strap
    Ammo - Hedgehog Bomb
    Head - Marduk's Tiara
    Neck - Summoning Torque
    Ear - Magnetic Earring
    Ear - Loquacious Earring
    Body - Yinyang Robe
    Hands - Summoner's Bracers +1
    Ring - Evoker's Ring
    Ring - Tamas Ring
    Back - Summoner's Cape
    Waist - Hierarch belt
    Legs - Marduk's Shalwar
    Feet - Summoner's Pigaches
    Total mp - 1515mp
    Can be seen on www.ffxiah.com

    Marduk Tiara is pretty bad ass for a taru smn it gives me 58mp which is awesome considering this piece doesnt have any -hp for all that mp.

  9. #29
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    Hm I hope you realize the evasion skill is for the summoner, not the avatar lol af1 feet have avatar evasion+ though.

  10. #30
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    Gutsu
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    Title seems appropriate!

    Im just kidding, on a serious note though i dont see any reason why the AF1 and AF2 would not stack, thats like saying RDM AF2 Hat and Dalmatica dont stack. Just because they have the same stat dosnt mean they dont both work..

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    Quote Originally Posted by elphaba View Post
    blood PACT. not Pack.

    Skimming the thread, it looks like most people said what I was going to.
    Evoker's ring is hot.
    I use a SMN/Magnetic earring. I would love to get a pet augmented one. I also use SMN torque. I use a mix of Nashira (hands, eventually feet), af1+1 (feet only atm), and af2 (5/5). I use the 30/30 Assault cape, as I'm a taru, and once I'm done with HP merits will sit at ~800 HP which is pretty good for me. I could get more, but I'm happy at 800. I use Tamas/Evoker ring, Fenrir's Stone (Honestly I should get (another) Hedgehog Bomb, but Fen Stone's okay for me. Hedgy is awesome though.), and Penitent's Rope or Qiqurn Sash +1. Full set of HQ staves, no B staff.

    My biggest investment is still HMP gear. There's no use in having a metric arseton of MP if you can't get it back fast.
    Glad to see some smn's out there understand how important mp healing is for us smn's. We have a large amount of mp but that can quickly go away do to our jobs during fights buffing, attacking, and support healing. I currently have +40hmp (from gear not counting clearmind job trait) on my smn it was the highest till this new add on ACP came out. Im trying to get that rainbow obi from azure key with +5hmp which would give me new total of +42hmp. There is a new back piece but its only during fire wheather so i didnt count that unless you have a sch in pt who can change the wheather for you.

    This is my current hmp set:

    Main - Senior Gold Musketeer's Rod +7
    Sub - Legion Scutum +5
    Ammo - Imperial Dart +2 but only works in besieged
    Head - Mirror Tiara +3
    Neck - Phi Necklace +3
    Ear - Magnetic Earring +1
    Ear - Relaxing Earring +2
    Body - Oracle's Robe +6
    Hands - Oracle's Gloves +2
    Ring - Star Ring +1
    Ring - Star Ring +1
    Back - Invigorating Cape +1
    Waist - Qiqirn Sash+1 +3
    Legs - Yigit Seraweels +2
    Feet - Avocat Pigaches +3

    +40hmp and with clearmind5 job trait is another +27 then with wizard cookies is another +7. Grand total 74 mp healing for me.

    Star rings use to be very expensive i payed 3mill for the star sapphire then i had to pay another 400k for 2 O ingots used to make the Orichalcum Ring which is part of the synth. But now with the addition of ANNM's the priced has dropped down to 1mill ~ 1.5mill on my server slyph.

    I need to do more testing and find out if wearing yigit set is still the best possible set to wear for the very first tick of mp. Back when i didnt have my mp healing set complete i would rest with Yigit set for first tick of mp then i would switch out to my full +hmp set. Yigit set gives refresh as well as good hmp so not a bad idea to wear for the first 20 seconds or so till you get that first tick. I need to test today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falisa View Post
    Hm I hope you realize the evasion skill is for the summoner, not the avatar lol af1 feet have avatar evasion+ though.
    Damn lol you right i was thinking of my af1+1 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogie View Post
    Gutsu
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    Title seems appropriate!

    Im just kidding, on a serious note though i dont see any reason why the AF1 and AF2 would not stack, thats like saying RDM AF2 Hat and Dalmatica dont stack. Just because they have the same stat dosnt mean they dont both work..
    I do hope it stacks there was a discussion on this a while back. Some smn's thought it didnt. There is this NM bird in rolanberry fields i cant remember name but has really good evasion. I didnt seem to land physical bp's any better with my +1 summoner bracers and +1 evokers legs. I still missed alot. I would just like to see some confirmation from SE or proof. I still do use them sometimes. And Rdm af2 hat with dalmatcia is something easily tested you can easily see the refresh working lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekyr View Post

    Physical BP set
    Code:
    input /pet "Flaming Crush" <t>;
    input /pet "Mountain Buster" <t>;
    input /pet "Spinning Dive" <t>;
    input /pet "Predator Claws" <t>;
    input /pet "Rush" <t>;
    input /pet "Chaotic Strike" <t>;
    input /pet "Eclipse Bite" <t>;
    I was wondering, is there actually any way to have this not come out in your log as 6 errors and 1 bp that goes off? It's a minor issue, but it always annoyed me XD

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