Worlds End Impending, SE Actually Responds

[Ryko]

In after.

A "No" would have sufficed.

[Shiroikage]

ITT: Spam forum gets all uppity and plays 'let's pretend we're superior' for a few days.

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[AkashiXI]

ITT: Spam forum gets all uppity and plays 'let's pretend we're superior' for a few days.

Nah brah, we're trying to show you that your forum is the same as our forum; except that yours is about FFXI.

[Tempyst]

Standard discussion? Nah, I'm a pro, it's my duty to have a twelve page screaming argument about the merits of four rdm melees cycling Death Blossom on HNMs, we'll leave the newbs to the newb discussion

[Charismatic]

What do you guys expect them to do? Rename this forum section to 'drama and updates ' section?
Also, fuck you (this is to anyone) if you think they ought to get rid of the drama.

[Cantih]

Maybe spin off a side forum? Nobody can start a thread in it, only mods may move any truly "Advanced" threads into it.
If space is needed, could probably turn WotG ito a subforum.

[Izzy]

Standard discussion? Nah, I'm a pro, it's my duty to have a twelve page screaming argument about the merits of four rdm melees cycling Death Blossom on HNMs, we'll leave the newbs to the newb discussion

You know at one point that guy had made some comment about everyone in advanced going to newbie/standard because we couldn't comprehend what he was saying?

[Ruuz]

What do you guys expect them to do? Rename this forum section to 'drama and updates ' section?
Also, fuck you (this is to anyone) if you think they ought to get rid of the drama.

I like it. Drama and Updates section ftw.

[S N K]

you know how many fucktards we have to slap down because they whine about not being able to post them spam 15 posts in the new members section JUST so they can post some worthless screenshot that was documented a month or more ago.

The reason its not a big problem to you is because you dont spend a third of the time that the moderation staff sits here. I spend hours upon hours reading threads and moderating shit, I barely have enough time for me anymore and thats with a really good moderation staff. And lets face it, the candidates for new mods are very small indeed, not many users who would work out that well in my view.

Sadly I can relate to this. Being part of a gaming forum that's existed for 10 years with moderating a lot even with a good staff makes for a serious headache reading so many threads.

Thankfully there are people in position who are more ruthless then I am in dealing with idiots but then again, the users on my forums tend to drive out people who act stupid as shit. :/

[BRP]

Advanced should be about thinking and receiving new facts(news)

Standard should be about fact-gathering and bringing up solved questions

Any other distinction is pointless.

[Septimus]

I would just have one suggestion to the admins here if they are considering going Premiere... make sure you get something you want out of the deal. You guys aren't retarded so I won't go into the whole, "get it in writing" spiel. But... get it in writing. Another site will pop up for people to complain freely without reproach (other than from amongst themselves), so you've gotta figure that though the community will be losing a significant portion of it's not-so-useless freedom to complain, things will bounce back. It's the corporate equivalent of selling out though... make sure it makes you rich, bitch, because there's no turning back.

This is why I doubt that BG would ever become a community site, there really isn't anything that we would get out of the deal. You get a graphics tool kit, you get a RSS, you get a community tool, and a link on the PoL site. We can make all of the graphics we want, who cares about a RSS, who needs the community tool, and we have enough people here already that update days wreck every server that we can throw at you guys. And I serverly doubt that Square would smile upon our numerous NSFW threads or the swirling cauldron of stupidity that is Spam. (For the record, I don't smile upon that either because look how it bleeds into other forums.) So bacically, Square would have to come up with one amazing argument; like real interviews with the dev team on a regular basis, update note information days before it is available to the general public, real galkas for me, money, etc to make us consider becoming a community site.

And I severly doubt that they would ever let us become a premire site.

What do you guys expect them to do? Rename this forum section to 'drama and updates ' section?
Also, fuck you (this is to anyone) if you think they ought to get rid of the drama.

We got permission to moderate this forum a little harder. This should make it better.

[Rocl]

If Square Enix promised me RL Nashira, I would consent whole heartedly.

[spooky]

numerous NSFW threads or the swirling cauldron of stupidity that is Spam.

Get rid of both? I kind of liked the idea of spam when it was first introduced. People could just chat and be silly and mess around a bit, and that kept it out of the other forums. But now it's developed into basically its own subculture, where people seem to think it's cool to be as retarded as possible. I'd really like to see it gone now as you say it's spilling over into other forums; and its original purpose was to keep that kind of shit out of regular topics.

[Correction]

I'd really like to see it gone now as you say it's spilling over into other forums; and its original purpose was to keep that kind of shit out of regular topics.

It was always kind of a stated goal to keep non-FFXI talk out of the FFXI forums. That's why General talk existed; the original purpose of Spam was to keep the signal/noise in General manageable. This particular forum has always been kind of shark-infested and I figure the backlash is more to keep the offtopic crapflooding out of the FFXI forums once again.

[Ryko]

It's rather obvious that sort of shit was bannable without a policy change. I'd say the self-important delusion you're subjecting yourself to is ridiculous but honestly it's pretty run of the mill. Lord knows I was as guilty as anyone.

[Sonomaa]

degraded too far. Thank you for the good post kaeko, I do sincerely appreciate it.