Oral exam for directions (Japanese; again!)

[Darte]

Heres something out of the blue. You wouldn't happen to have a teacher called Ito would you?

[Vuitton]

lmao.

My Japanese final oral exam for 102 used a very similar map. God I hate oral finals.

For mine, I had a partner, and we had to roleplay as co-workers. We had to act out entering our bosses office, her giving us a shopping list and telling us what to buy, i was given a credit card, my partner was given cash.

Then, we had to walk to the "depaato", but got stopped by a stranger (the teacher) who was lost and needed directions. She asked each of us where something on that map was and how to get there.

Then, inside the "depaato" we were stopped by another stranger (the teacher) wanting to know what floors the public telephone and bathrooms were on.

Then, I had to buy some stuff at the bookstore (hon ya) and interact with the shopkeep (teacher).

My partner had to buy some stuff at the stationar store (bunboguuya) and interact with the shopkeep.

Then we had to return to the office and speak with our boss.

Then the boss asked us how late we were working, and how we would be returning home when we got off.

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So stressfull! We weren't given a script or knew what the oral exam would be UNTIL the exact moment the exam began. It had to be fully reactive responses and not a memorized script. It was a little different for each pair of students, but this oral exam was always done in private so the rest of the class couldn't learn what was going to be asked of them.

(I got a B.)

[Chelly]

woo just got back from my JP midterm oral and got a good score =)

anyone else taking 103?
I realize its gonna be different from my 103 but still, it'd be interesting to practice writing to each other in JP I'd think

also OP, if you need any more help with Japanese pm me
I can't pretend to know all about Japanese but I'll help with anything I can

[Meian]

Finished the oral, it was more than the map and she didn't warn us surprisingly (not in her nature heh). She asked us additional questions regarding if it was true that a building was next to this one and what it was called. Then there were strange questions regarding, like if I mentioned the bank in her question, if I go to a bank, how often I go, and what bank it was. Same thing with the hospital and school (along with when I go to school starting what time and when it ends).

In the end, I got a 4.5 out of 5 on every portion except the bonus since that is done after I leave (based on the polite things to say/do when entering, before sitting, before the test, after the test, and leaving) but I think I got 5 on the bonus for sure.

Thanks a lot on the assist everyone ! :D Just wish my written portion was as good as the oral heh x_x

Just noticed the map and got a kick out of it XD Senoska beat me to the park though :\

Heres something out of the blue. You wouldn't happen to have a teacher called Ito would you?

Haha I had him for first semester. He was always stoic... it was intimidating. We use to joke to him being a ladiesman.

I know how you feel about the oral practice, I know what to say etc, but I just freeze up when it comes to speaking. This year I've had more practice with the Japanese students who came over to our university. They've told me that we're doing well for 2 years intensive Japanese and it took them a long time to be confident when speaking English. So I guess someday something will just click and that sorta stagefright will go away then. =)

I've done debates and speeches several times but the feeling never seems to go away XD Best way I figured was to look past their shoulder. For this oral, I just looked at the map and moved my finger on it so it didn't look like I was avoiding eye contact negatively {for the map portion anyway}

lmao.

My Japanese final oral exam for 102 used a very similar map. God I hate oral finals.

For mine, I had a partner, and we had to roleplay as co-workers.

Oh man I had to do role-playing first semester but it wasn't as crazy as yours was... Great job on the B though that'd be tough on me if it wasn't warned ahead of time.

also OP, if you need any more help with Japanese pm me
I can't pretend to know all about Japanese but I'll help with anything I can

I really appericate the offer and I'll take you up on it if the time comes so I don't have to make another topic XD

[CuddableKae]

Vuitton, wow, that's an insane oral exam, especially for first year. I'm kind of glad I never had anything that bad. Even in 4th year Japanese, they would at least give us a vague idea of what the oral exam would contain.

[Denchi]

Just finished final presentation for 202. Me and some dudes did a skit which was a mock-japanese gameshow. Sakana Boushi!

We did pretty shitty as far as the script goes, but we had everyone rofl'ing, maybe that will make up for our incompetence.

So that's basically the only advice I have. Be proficient at what you do know (if you don't think you can memorize everything) and make the teacher laugh. A's for everyone.

[Vuitton]

Vuitton, wow, that's an insane oral exam, especially for first year. I'm kind of glad I never had anything that bad. Even in 4th year Japanese, they would at least give us a vague idea of what the oral exam would contain.

They gave us a vague general idea of what to study a few weeks ahead of time. It was basically "review every chapter covered this quarter and pay attention to what was generally the focus of each chapter."

So, I knew directions, buildings, floors, ect, would be part of it as the had their own chapter. Then I knew gerunds would be covered (itte, kitte, tabete, aruite, ect) as they had their own chapter. Then a chapter that focused on switching between honorific, humble, direct, and polite speech depending on who you're speaking to or about. I think there was a chapter on counters as well.

So I had a good idea what would be in the oral. But, its still tough when you don't know exactly what they'll ask, and when they do you have to spit out an original, natural, coherent reply and pray you used the right form of polite speech.

Edit:

Yeah, the program the Japanese department uses at Portland State University is really hellish. They use Eleanor Jorden's Japanese: The Spoken Language (JSL) and Japanese: The Written Language (JWL). Which are completely different styles of teaching than... well every other Japanese language book.

We have to teach ourselves the language on our own time, then come to class and practice conversation while native Japanese speakers help us with pronunciation, speed, listening comprehension (no english ever!), accent, pitch, intonation, and dictation. Today's conversations were:

A: osoku natte sumimasen

B: nani ka atta n desu ka

A: hachi ji ni uchi o deta n desu kedo jiko de densha ga okureta n desu.

B: jya, taihen datta deshyoo

A: ee, sumimasen

and

A: Yamamoto-san wa rusu jya arimasen deshita ne

B: rusu datta deshyoo

and

A: konban sensei no otaku ni denwa o kakemasu yo

B: nan ji goro kakeru n desu ka

and lastly,

A: oishii osake o nomimashita yo

B: doko de nonda n desu ka

Then we practiced the same sentence structure and reply with different words.

[Senoska]

You guys use yo and ne way too fucking much....

[Vuitton]

You guys use yo and ne way too fucking much....

I count 1 "ne", and 2 "yo"s? Not sure what to say to that?

The first conversation has no "ne"s and no "yo"s.

The second has 1 "ne" and 0 "yo"s.

The third has 0 "ne" and 1 "yo".

The fourth has 0 "ne" anad 1 "yo".

Granted, we've just learned the gentle (feminine) and blunt (masculine) usage of "yo" (wa yo vs. yo, da yo vs. yo), this chapter. I still don't see much of it here?

That is, unless you're confusing "deshyoo" with "yo"? "deshyoo" is the distal tentative form of "desu". It means the speaker doesn't know for certain what they are saying.

[Zhais]

man, I can't stand reading japanese that aren't in hiragana/katakana/kanji

install the IME!

[Meian]

Yeah, the program the Japanese department uses at Portland State University is really hellish. They use Eleanor Jorden's Japanese: The Spoken Language (JSL) and Japanese: The Written Language (JWL). Which are completely different styles of teaching than... well every other Japanese language book.

Yep, those are the books we used XD

[Silenka]

OP's way of romanizing makes my head hurt. I'm glad my teacher stuck to romanization that makes sense.

[Meian]

OP's way of romanizing makes my head hurt. I'm glad my teacher stuck to romanization that makes sense.

To the way you were taught prolly.

[Zhais]

OP's way of romanizing makes my head hurt. I'm glad my teacher stuck to romanization that makes sense.

'romanizing' in general hurts!

IME!

[Zhais]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...1&d=1241406530

Now back to my final project due tomorrow...

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[Vuitton]

すみません。　インストルでIMEをするだった。

I probably screwed up the grammar of that, but whatevs.　(I can't seem to get the る　to display.)

[Elmer the Pointy]

BlueGartr got all funky with handling Japanese writing after the switch back to vBulletin. If you write more than a few characters, sometimes the rest of your post won't display, but it is still available under Edit. There may be certain characters that trigger the problem, but I'm not sure.

If you put it inside code tags it will display OK. For example, I edited Vuitton's post and recovered the lost portion.

[Vuitton]

BlueGartr got all funky with handling Japanese writing after the switch back to vBulletin. If you write more than a few characters, sometimes the rest of your post won't display, but it is still available under Edit. There may be certain characters that trigger the problem, but I'm not sure.

If you put it inside code tags it will display OK. For example, I edited Vuitton's post and recovered the lost portion.

Very interesting! Thanks for the tip, Elmer~