Mythic Scythe - Liberator

[Kirschy]

Aftermath wears off when you swap weapons. Same as Relic.

[Chantal]

I heard that the DA can stack on WSs. I didn't believe it but, if it's true, that could potentially be pretty ridiculous.

Did you see DA on WSs much more often than normal? I'm assuming not since you didn't say anything about it, but... yeah xD doesn't hurt to ask

[Maxxthepenguin]

Even if Liberator comes close to Apoc, Apoc would win just for the added survivability. Liberator would have to blow Apoc out of the water (as far as damage goes) to give up the playstyle changes Apoc allows.

But you are forgetting the most important part: It looks cool.

And the second most important part: It shows that other non-SAM 2h Mythics could be very worth it since they don't have to compete with the god damn Apocalypse and instead compete with the relatively modest Bravura and Gungnir.

[Kirschy]

Had SAM roll during merit, so was impossible to know. And while I was testing I blood tanked, so keeping track of my TP after WS was difficult. From eyeballing it, I feel like the DA procs only after AM3 is on. (AM applied after WS.) I plan to test it for sure this weekend.

I saw a bunch of these during the 1hr merit session, so I'm fairly certian the AM3 procs during WS. I won't say for sure til I know~

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5529/insurg.png

[TummieGaruda]

I believe Alma's Mythic WS testing a while back proved that DA can occur on WS when AM3 is up so it's no surprise you saw numbers such as those.

[Marcicus]

edit: Don't post early in the morning. It makes people believe you can't read.

[Clash Perez]

Read five posts above yours, Marcicus.

[Overburn]

I have a question.

Not that it's practical, but could you build up to lv3 with Liberator, then swap to Apoc and spam Catastrophe and have both aftermaths going at the same time? I was thinking having those two aftermaths up at the same time would be insane.

Don't feel too bad, I almost asked the same question until I reread her post like 4 times.

[Raineer]

damn, that's stupid on SE's part

I think SE had to make it wear and be refreshed..I think...

Otherwise, could you not just use Insurgency every 300TP with an always-on 65% DA rate, and then you would have an insane chance for DA to fire during the WS?

Sounds kinda broken, but tbh when you are talking about Dark Knight's mythic weapon I think it should be broken.

Big grats Kirschy.

[Arthars]

2H cant be dual wield

so yea

1 or the other

it all depends on which you like and since now kirchy have both, it will give people who dont have either, a real good comparison and choose which you wanna make and suit your gameplay

[Eleven19]

And the second most important part: It shows that other non-SAM 2h Mythics could be very worth it since they don't have to compete with the god damn Apocalypse and instead compete with the relatively modest Bravura and Gungnir.

Somewhat off-topic, but why is the SAM mythic considered to be that particular benchmark? Was information found about that as well? All I remember was a JP having completed it and someone screenshotted for the main (old) thread.

And congrats Kirschy!

[recuperi]

Somewhat off-topic, but why is the SAM mythic considered to be that particular benchmark? Was information found about that as well? All I remember was a JP having completed it and someone screenshotted for the main (old) thread.

And congrats Kirschy!

Pretty sure he said non-SAM because of Hagun, but I could be wrong here. I really don't know anything about the SAM mythic, but Hagun even outdoes Amano in certain situations

[Eleven19]

Oh. I read it as saying SAM's Mythic is above the others.

[Arthars]

sam's mythic/relic is called hagun

[Vejitta]

Mythic looks like meh, but AM3 effect looks really impresive and I'm again started to thinking should I stick for Bravura for good or switch it to Conqueror maybe...

[Maxxthepenguin]

Pretty sure he said non-SAM because of Hagun, but I could be wrong here. I really don't know anything about the SAM mythic, but Hagun even outdoes Amano in certain situations

Hagun and Amano are so good it's kind of like comparing to Apoc on DRK, which makes the SAM Mythic less valuable.

[Sifer]

Thanks for the testing kirschy.

[toonces]

Thanks for the testing too and grats.

Slide in Q: I'm also interested if the weapon has Piercing capabilities. Didn't see if you got to test that one yet.

[ninjafox]

I could have sworn that people were able to use catastrophe and then switch to Kclub and get the haste bonus a while back. Was this changed or am I just remembering incorrectly?

[Nameless]

Yea, was changed not very long ago