Drop XV: Epic wooshes about Pandemonium Warden luck

[Demonic]

4 days ago
http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/p...521_234935.jpg

then last night
http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/p...525_040753.jpg

Is this an offer to make us food? Kitchen bitch, now.

[Grieverao]

Odin #4
http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...525_185545.png
Mbody > Blaine
Abody > Baleoce
Hhands > Panic
Elegs > Redge
VHelm > me :D

(WHM kill lol)

[Wulfgang]

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...525_182502.png

Finafuckingly pretty much sums it up; been boxing it weekly for at least a year

[sylvani]

1/3 woot. On a side note tho, I've camped this mob about 50 times for other people, so /cheer!!!

And Georgs is a sweetheart, I wuff him!

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...526_013242.png

I also got SCH feet that night during dynamis making me 6/6

-Syl

[Valisk]

More misinformed bot talk brought to you by some retard.

http://www.sector930.com/blog/wp-con..._you_know1.jpg

What are you implying here? That botting is ineffective against KA? I don't see anything wrong with Raen Ryong's statement.

[Gadritan]

You still don't know what you're talking about. KA works differently than other HNM, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to someone who believes they know what they're talking about.

<3 you Eanae, but I gotta chime in on this.

His spawn conditions are different from other NMs, but that has 0 effect on a bot. If it does, you're doing it wrong.

Or so I'm told from a friend of a friend <.<!

And grats on those Trotters Syl. I've yet to see any drop out of the 2394872394273423987 times I've helped people camp, lol.

[Eanae]

In large numbers sure, but if you have one or two people, your luck would probably be better just spamming (from personal experience anyways).

[Gadritan]

Nah. Spamming is the exact same. The more people you have, the better your odds.

Everything still functions the exact same. Bots or spam, it all comes down to luck anyways.

It's just coincidence that you've had better luck with spamming.

Edit: Though it is extremely satisfying to get a manual claim when you know you're competing with bots. Even when I'd beat LS mates with a manual I had to throw it in their face, lol.

[drwaffles]

How is it extremely satisfying when you manage to claim by doing exactly what a bot does but manually for a whole 10 seconds? Much as I hate to agree with Eanae, people who whine about bots in situations where you're not camping against large rival groups are very misinformed.

[Knyghtmayre]

If botting didn't work more often than 'lucky' manual spamming/claiming, people wouldn't spend money to do it.

[Valisk]

How is it extremely satisfying when you manage to claim by doing exactly what a bot does but manually for a whole 10 seconds? Much as I hate to agree with Eanae, people who whine about bots in situations where you're not camping against large rival groups are very misinformed.

That wasn't what Eanae was saying. He said due to KA's "pop conditions" botting is ineffective at that camp. When in actuallity, his pop conditions may be different but his claiming conditions are the same as most other NMs.

[Gadritan]

It's satisfying to me to get a manual claim over a bot because I don't just spam. I try to time it just perfect on the first claim. It's better than spamming and getting blocked on your first attempt. So I'm not doing the same thing that a bot does for 10 seconds. It's still mostly luck I know, but I get a kick out of it. I guess after years of doing the exact same thing over and over it's the little things that amuse me.

I'm not sure why you would say that people in that scenario are misinformed.

If anything, Eanae was giving incorrect information by implying KA's spawn conditions had an affect on bots and that manual claims were superior in smaller numbers.

[drwaffles]

That wasn't what Eanae was saying. He said due to KA's "pop conditions" botting is ineffective at that camp. When in actuallity, his pop conditions may be different but his claiming conditions are the same as most other NMs.

No... he's saying that for NMs that aren't heavily camped (e.g. KA) that you only camp with 1-4 people on average, botting hardly gives you any edge. And Knyghtmayre, is anyone saying botting never gives an advantage? No. Stop being dumb.

[Eanae]

That wasn't what Eanae was saying. He said due to KA's "pop conditions" botting is ineffective at that camp. When in actuallity, his pop conditions may be different but his claiming conditions are the same as most other NMs.

Delays work a bit differently on KA too, so no, claiming conditions aren't the exact same.

ps: I don't pay to bot. I laugh at all the pathetic people who pay Maury $2,500 for his trash piece of software. His "nasa" has been run off Cerberus twice now.

[drwaffles]

Delays work a bit differently on KA too, so no, claiming conditions aren't the exact same.

ps: I don't pay to bot. I laugh at all the pathetic people who pay Maury $2,500 for his trash piece of software. His "nasa" has been run off Cerberus twice now.

I agree with KA having a different delay too. I used to claim him quite often spamming Flash, whereas I'd usually get smacked with claim delay on Kings doing the same thing.

[Valisk]

No... he's saying that for NMs that aren't heavily camped (e.g. KA) that you only camp with 1-4 people on average, botting hardly gives you any edge.

No, if you would read his initial (2nd) post about the matter then you'd realize that he threw in the numbers (3rd) post after back pedalling from his original claim.

You still don't know what you're talking about. KA works differently than other HNM, but I'm not going to bother explaining it to someone who believes they know what they're talking about.

Edit: How does KA's delay differ from other (H)NMs Eanae?

[Valisk]

I agree with KA having a different delay too. I used to claim him quite often spamming Flash, whereas I'd usually get smacked with claim delay on Kings doing the same thing.

Oh quit with the eyeballing shit and pretending you've stumbled onto a new discovery.

[Gadritan]

Never noticed a different delay on KA at all.

I've claimed him with voke, flash, dia, stun, threnody, quick draw, jump. I just kind of mix it up. Regardless of claim used, I've had just as much success with him as any king.

Edit: He didn't say anything about the delay being different there. I'd have to assume he was referring to the spawn conditions, not the claim delay.

[drwaffles]

Someone sounds a bit angsty.

[Valisk]

Someone sounds a bit angsty.

Nah, just hate when people talk out their asses