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  1. #621
    Every day I'm wafflin'
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    And the basis for your accusation is...?

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    Stating KA has a different delay on claim based on personal opinion rather than fact is what he means I think.

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    9 times out of 10 KA pops at very high delays. Most anyone who is trying would be able to target and get a cast in while a bot would either be locked out, or start to cast at the same time. Bot or not, if you cast you have a chance to claim.

    Edit: Not saying botting doesn't give at least some advantage here, but the advantages are less than at other HNM in small numbers.

  4. #624
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    Nothing has set delay, that's the whole point. But as someone who has camped both KA vs. 5 others and Nid/Aspid/KB with 150+ in exactly the same conditions multiple times I can assure you that, in my personal experience, they have very different delays on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    And the basis for your accusation is...?
    Oh is that really how you want to go about things. Throwing shit out there until someone else proves you wrong? So what do I need to do to shut you up? Post the delays that claim KA and Faf for 7 pops each and if any of the Faf times are quicker than any of the KA times then your "theory" (bullshit) is debunked?

  6. #626
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    So the basis for your argument is "your personal experiences mean nothing compared to my total lack of evidence to the contrary"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    they have very different delays on average.
    Oh now you want to plug in "on average"

    gtfo

  8. #628
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    Nobody is going to deny that you need several coordinated bots to drastically increase your chances of claim, but it's ridiculous to claim that typing in a delay you know to be in the range of possible claim delays is no easier than trying to manually time your claim at 1.5 seconds or whatever you think is appropriate. People don't risk their accounts (However little risk there is in claimbotting) because they don't have 3 seconds' worth of concentration in them.

    And no, KA does not have shorter delays than kings. I've seen him yellow for almost 5 seconds because everyone who was making a real effort guessed early.

  9. #629
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    This argument was already retarded when it started pages ago. Bottom line, 99% of people who moan about bots don't understand anything about them or how claiming works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    So the basis for your argument is "your personal experiences mean nothing compared to my total lack of evidence to the contrary"?
    I was asking if the evidence I described enough to debunk your shitty theory that you back pedalled into "personal expereince" that you back pedalled into "on average". If you back pedal anymore you're going to inadvertently invent a time machine.

  11. #631
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    I'm not sure how any of that counts as "backpedalling", but whatever floats your e-wiener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    Bottom line, 99% of people who moan
    People moaning! Now you're talkin'!

    So yeah. Less argument-that-will-never-be-won and more pics of dorps prease.

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    It's hard to take Drwaffle's seriously with that avatar.

  14. #634
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    It's hard to think you don't like the cock with that one!

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    I like where this is going.

  16. #636
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Did someone say cock?


  17. #637
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    Not amazing, but in our last Dyna-Xarc we got 13 AF's, and this pool just in the first pull

  18. #638
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    No pics but #1 JoL for the shell

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    45 min kill.

    Considering most have never done it before, was really fun fight. Never tanked it before so was a nice new experience too ^

  19. #639
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    Did you not find it boring to tank?

  20. #640
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    JoL...tank...?
    WUT IS THIS IM HEARING

    and for what it's worth, every KA i've been at has had basically 0 delay on pop - like to the point where I don't even start casting. I'm too early 90% of the time on kings, too, so I know the typical delay

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