Drop XV: Epic wooshes about Pandemonium Warden luck

[Neoex]

I guess its all in how a person views 'simple' if I have to go buy extra gear/meds/items from AH for a particular fight, and have to talk about a strategy and specific timing, to me thats not simple.

Simple means you walk up pop a mob, no one needs to know or have anything special and it dies

I play in a linkshell that everyone has an above average understanding of the game as a point of reference.


but to each and their own, degrees if simplicity, cheers

[Chojja]

k post your low man prudence strat.. since its so simple. or you could admit low manning an entire JoL popset is not simple, and takes lots of time, well thought out strategies, well geared/developed players.

Uh, Prudence isnt the roadblock...Justice is. Unless you do the gay WoJ, Justice requires the most amount of people. Prudence can be beaten by a single party, 7-8 comfortably...and you don't have to buy any extra meds. Even JoL only takes 10-11 people for a relatively easy win...Justice I have yet to do comfortably with less than that.

[Gadritan]

Basically this. I misread and Gadritan corrected me. I didn't notice until he did.

Yeah wth. I <3 Uryuu. It was easy to mistake m.feet for m.bod for the simple fact that you might expect to see body sold for 3.2M...but not feet. Not even for 100k, lol.

Now moar dorps bishes.

(And btw, you can do justice with 6-7ppl. It's called a zerg.)

[Neoex]

Would consider low manning 6-man or less. My LS does Justice in less than 5 minutes(by the time troubadour songs wear) a pop with 10-12 people. It just takes a shitload of relics and decked players to get it down that fast without 2hrs. Avgs between 2-4 baby spawns each.

Also would like to see a 'solid' strat with 6-7 for JoP, Solid meaning you could pop 5+ in a row without incident.

[Gunitsoldier]

DOES NOT COMPUTE!

I said I wonder where they get their money FROM. Not WHY they use it to buy those items.

Kthnx

[Gadritan]

Seriously? We've zerged with 5-6ppl in less than a minute of course without any relics or KCs. Like...10-12ppl...5minutes...shitload of relics...wtfm8?

How many of your relic holders are in the gimp/wtf/confused thread?

Edit: And what LS is this <.<?

[Neoex]

Seriously? We've zerged with 5-6ppl in less than a minute of course without any relics or KCs. Like...10-12ppl...5minutes...shitload of relics...wtfm8?

How many of your relic holders are in the gimp/wtf/confused thread?

uh imma guess and say 0 but you can go ahead and look and see if you see any Excellence - - FFXIAH.com, we do 5-10 at a time, so we dont just go up there blow 2hrs and roll.

Im sure if we 2hr with bard songs and our melee it would go down in 30 seconds as well. Pretty sure we know how to zerg since we do DL + 3 frags consistently in Xarc with 20 people.

[Chojja]

Would consider low manning 6-man or less. My LS does Justice in less than 5 minutes(by the time troubadour songs wear) a pop with 10-12 people. It just takes a shitload of relics and decked players to get it down that fast without 2hrs. Avgs between 2-4 baby spawns each.

Also would like to see a 'solid' strat with 6-7 for JoP, Solid meaning you could pop 5+ in a row without incident.

Have never had an issue with Prudence, always solo tanked, mp never an issue. The only difference between 6-7 and 9-10 people strats on prudence is the speed of the kill and blms involved. Mp has never been an issue so the amount of blms brought isnt paramount to the success.

[Aksannyi]

nah, the others def do just probably to a lesser extent. df has too many members to really be constantly capped on things and legacy wipes too much to actually sell things consistently

Haha this is so fucking true.

[Gadritan]

Yeah. If you do the math, if you have even 1 ally, you can break that into 3 pops like this np. Even more so if you're not relying on DRKs since stronger mnks/sams/wars don't need 2hrs to zerg it.

Needz moar DL with 12-15ppl 0 KCs 0 relics consistently. Seriously, don't brag about DL with 20ppl with a "shitload of relics." That's like bragging you can kill Kirin in 30sec with a shitload of KCs.

But hay, I'm sure that's still a nice accomplishment for you guys.

[Chojja]

Yeah. If you do the math, if you have even 1 ally, you can break that into 3 pops like this np. Even more so if you're not relying on DRKs since stronger mnks/sams/wars don't need 2hrs to zerg it.

Needz moar DL with 12-15ppl 0 KCs 0 relics consistently. Seriously, don't brag about DL with 20ppl with a "shitload of relics." That's like bragging you can kill Kirin in 30sec with a shitload of KCs.

But hay, I'm sure that's still a nice accomplishment for you guys.

I'm so confused by what you post

[Neoex]

Yeah. If you do the math, if you have even 1 ally, you can break that into 3 pops like this np. Even more so if you're not relying on DRKs since stronger mnks/sams/wars don't need 2hrs to zerg it.

Needz moar DL with 12-15ppl 0 KCs 0 relics consistently. Seriously, don't brag about DL with 20ppl with a "shitload of relics." That's like bragging you can kill Kirin in 30sec with a shitload of KCs.

But hay, I'm sure that's still a nice accomplishment for you guys.

Sorry you missed the part about doing 3 fragments as well. and sorry, your full of shit saying you kill DL with 12-15 people with 0 KC and 0 relic, CONSISTENTLY 1/5 is not consistently. Consistently to me is 5/5

[Gadritan]

uh imma guess and say 0 but you can go ahead and look and see if you see any Excellence - - FFXIAH.com, we do 5-10 at a time, so we dont just go up there blow 2hrs and roll.

Im sure if we 2hr with bard songs and our melee it would go down in 30 seconds as well. Pretty sure we know how to zerg since we do DL + 3 frags consistently in Xarc with 20 people.

It was in response to this ^

Make sense now <.<?

Edit: K Neo since you seem to know my history. Don't think that just because it takes you guys all of those relics that everyone else needs them too. Now which LSs did I do that with...? You would know wouldn't you? Not to mention I'm not claiming anything special. There's plenty of other LS out there that do this on a regular bases. No one bothers to brag about it because it's common place.

[Aksannyi]

You do know that some linkshells can't even attempt DL even with more than 40 people, right?

[Gadritan]

Yeah. They fail. Point?

[Neoex]

It was in response to this ^

Make sense now <.<?

Edit: K Neo since you seem to know my history. Don't think that just because it takes you guys all of those relics that everyone else needs them too. Now which LSs did I do that with...? You would know wouldn't you?

Sorry again, didnt see anywhere in my post talking about your history or questioning what linkshell you have or are a part of. I dont care if your in linkshell ABC or XYZ. Ttating your killing DL with 12-15 people with NO KC and NO Relics, consistently is PURE BULLSHIT.


Lets say you have 12, which you said 12-15

at minimum you have 2 bards, 2 whm, and 1 RDM/DRK, that leaves 7 people to kill DL(do damage) assuming you have the most badass melee in the game no using KC or having any relics, which lets just say you do, your gonna say you can CONSISTENTLY do it. Please tell me you expect anyone but yourself to believe you.

[Gadritan]

Yeah, sorry. You're right. If your LS can't do it, then NO ONE CAN! lol.

Keep on keeping on.

So anyways! Let's get back to the dorps. Too much derail of a brick arguing with a brick.

[Chojja]

I am a little curious what setup you have thats doing roughly 100k damage with no KC/Relic and that few people.

[Neoex]

I am a little curious what setup you have thats doing roughly 100k damage with no KC/Relic and that few people.

Please list the 12 man setup that consistently kills DL. Would like to know myself, would love to improve our strategy.

[Vedder]

I am a little curious what setup you have thats doing roughly 100k damage with no KC/Relic and that few people.

Seconded. Inquiring minds want to know!

Edit: Beaten ... Thirded, gdi!