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[Shiroikage]

You'll always be the mod of my heart, Kuya.

[Shiroikage]

They are, depending on what you mean by rigorous. The thing that nat scientists don't know (well of course they don't know they're not soc. scientists!) is that soc. scientists used to be more empirical and rigorous till they realized that it didn't work. Fast forward to the 60s and the crisis of social science.

Essentially, the whole point of soc. science was that the philosophes from the Enlightment thought you could transmit the same techniques from natural science to a "science of the humanities" so you could figure out what human nature is, and construct the perfect human society based on rigorous, empirical, and mathematical science... furthermore they thought that if you could use the same techniques from the natural science to discover human nature, you could discover the very nature of human knowledge itself, and then, humans could obtain absolute knowledge and power over both nature and humankind. That was the whole point behind the creation of human science, the social science. That backfired lol, cue Reign of Terror, World War 1 and 2, numerous atrocious experiments of humans being treated like animals.

Right now social science is in limbo, currently developing new techniques to create knowledge about social phenomena, whilst also using some techniques from the natural science and making new ones. There isn't certaintity on what the new purpose of the social sciences should be, aside from producing knowledge, but most would agree that it needs to actually center itself around respecting and promoting human dignity... which it absolutely did not do by treating human beings like they were an atom or some cell.

That's what most nat. scientists don't realize, we tried using only techniques from nat science for social phenomena, and that failed miserably in within an awful 300 years. HOPE YOU ENJOYED THE HISTORY LESSON

This was one of my favourite things that we covered in PSY110. Some things can't be studied in certain ways.

[Kuya]

I'm like an endless river of books. Good books with hard covers.

[Kuya]

This was one of my favourite things that we covered in PSY110. Some things can't be studied in certain ways.

They taught you all that in detail in an introductory course? Damn, we only really got into that stuff when i took history of psych.

[Shiroikage]

It always blew my mind how unmovable Skinner seemed about radical behaviorism. Honestly, psychology clearly requires multiple approaches.

[Shiroikage]

They taught you all that in detail in an introductory course? Damn, we only really got into that stuff when i took history of psych.

In my defense, it was a 2 term class. He gave us a pretty mean textbook, didn't cover a ton of it, and expected us to know everything about it.

[Kuya]

Bringing the thread back to what's important.

Kuya, nobody goes to dunkin donuts for donuts. It's one giant mindfuck.

Oh, right. What do people go for in dunkin donuts?

[Kuya]

In my defense, it was a 2 term class. He gave us a pretty mean textbook, didn't cover a ton of it, and expected us to know everything about it.

Oh.

It always blew my mind how unmovable Skinner seemed about radical behaviorism. Honestly, psychology clearly requires multiple approaches.

Skinner is a dick.

[Shiroikage]

Skinner is a dick.

No question there.

[Shiroikage]

Oh, right. What do people go for in dunkin donuts?

I think it might be coffee.

[Kuya]

Wouldn't have taken so long to realize that you couldn't do psych with just strictly empirical phenomena in the most material sense if

A- the english translators, who were positivists, didn't ignore Wundt's volkerpsychologie and they instead just focused on the experimental aspect of his psychology, which was supposed to be modeled after Kant's "anthropology".

B- the books on the volkerpsychologie got bombed during an air raid in WW2.

can't believe you know so much about this stuff already; is it really that common for nat. students in your school to take psychology courses? Seems like an improvement.

[Kuya]

I think it might be coffee.

It was okay, i guess. The donuts were bad though.

[Shiroikage]

Wouldn't have taken so long to realize that you couldn't do psych with just strictly empirical phenomena in the most material sense if

A- the english translators, who were positivists, didn't ignore Wundt's volkerpsychologie and they instead just focused on the experimental aspect of his psychology, which was supposed to be modeled after Kant's "anthropology".

B- the books on the volkerpsychologie got bombed during an air raid in WW2.

can't believe you know so much about this stuff already; is it really that common for nat. students in your school to take psychology courses? Seems like an improvement.

You're beyond me at this point. All natural science degrees require a 6-credit social science unit which generally consists of intro psych, intro soc., or 3-credit anth+3-credit arch.

Probably 75-80% go with psych.

[Kuya]

Yea, that's a bit more specific into the first psychology as a science. Everyone knows who Freud is, but Wundt, who is accredited by historians of creating the first scientific psychology is hardly known. Granted Freud did intend to make a scientific psychology, as did Mills.

[Shiroikage]

We dealt with a lot of names with a small amount of information, but generally paid more attention to the evolution of psychology in a sociohistorical context in terms of how we dealt with the history of psychology.

[Kuya]

That is good enough, but i'm still sort of shocked that in your school so many take introductory courses to psychology and pass.

[Shiroikage]

I couldn't tell you what the averages are, but with it being a two-term class, there's a pretty good number of students who withdraw before financial penalty deadlines and even after.

[Shiroikage]

Comparatively higher failure rates in, say, introductory biology could also be explained because biology is one of many chokepoints for would-be medicine/pharmacy students. Seriously, I have never had a class that covered so much material. It wasn't that difficult, but holyfuckingshit was there ever a lot of material.

[Kuya]

The End.

[Kuya]

I always wanted to do that.