Ranger bug?

[Not Kuno]

My rng shots were doing very strange damage yesterday. I do the final ACP fight every day on rng, for a shot at something worthwhile. My rng gear is nothing really weird just normal rng gear, minus the ACP body for rng. I was also /war if that means anything. But basically this is what happened:

Tank got charmed, so I kept getting drawn in, and I died next to the crystal. Like an idiot, I got up with raise and died again instantly. I managed to raise up a 2nd time, and get out of range while it was casting a ga spell. Anyway, I was bored and we weren't doing too great, so I just shot away anyway. I ate a sub, used my jas and started shooting, even though almost all my shots were misses. I only landed 2 shots while unweakened, for fairly high damage. My regular shots do around 120, with crits a bit higher. Here's a SS I took with one of the shots that critted.

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http://www.bluegartr.com/gallery/not...1241451898.png

Probably shoulda cropped it more, but oh well. The second shot that landed I don't have a SS of. It was a regular hit for around 350 or so.


Anyone know wtf just happened?

[Arthars]

u will miss 100% i believe being double weakened

i encounter this last week when doing dark ixion


as for you shooting for 420 crit..........WOW WTF IS THAT LOL

[Kirschy]

Yea there's a huge acc- debuff on ranged attacks while being double weak.

[Not Kuno]

Well the -acc I heard about and kind of expected but.. I'm trying to figure out why I did 3-4x damage on my shots that hit. o.O

[tol]

Warcry? XD I don't know.. that is really unusual. Having never fought the ACP final bc I really don't know enough to tell you. That's a hell of a crit though..

[Valkrish]

crit ra-setup time ???

[Questionable]

Might be a bug. I know they updated the 2x weakness same time as BLM 2x. When I'm RNG and 2x weak, I don't bother to shoot, because I miss almost 100%. What I didn't know is that you can still hit as you demostrated, maybe the bug is they reduced RACC by alot but somehow messed up the RATK calculations when 2x weak and it jacks it up or something.

[Not Kuno]

Might be a bug. I know they updated the 2x weakness same time as BLM 2x. When I'm RNG and 2x weak, I don't bother to shoot, because I miss almost 100%. What I didn't know is that you can still hit as you demostrated, maybe the bug is they reduced RACC by alot but somehow messed up the RATK calculations when 2x weak and it jacks it up or something.

I was thinking it might be this. It can't be warcry cause I always use it when it's up lol. And my normal shot right after that (not shown cause I didnt SS it, was still while I was 2x weak) was around 350.. about 200 more then my normal shots. So it's not some crazy crit build either.

Interesting thing to note: The boss pretty much has no evasion, so I go all out in rattack more or less. I don't know how it will be possible to duplicate this, barring me dying like an idiot again in the future when we fight it. ><

[matix]

very interesting, usually when i get 2x weak i dont even bother to shoot, (i thought i remeber shots doing 0 dmg even when they hit when i was 2x weak? pretty sure they did, but lemme try to find a screenie to be sure, i could just be flat wrong lol) but ill give it a go next chance i get

[Ruuz]

Kuno, do you know your normal pDIF approximately? The only way I can see your damage tripling is if you go from ~1 to 3 pDIF (will make your crits 3.75 pDIF instead of 1.25). Songs being given didnt change at all?

[Wulfgang]

Something is wrong, I've done EES for 0 dmg on Simurgh when double weak. Typically you hit nothing and if somehow you do, it's for almost 0 dmg.

[matix]

yeah i spent some time looking for screenies of 0dmg shots, i couldn't find any, but wulf nailed it, im positive i hit for big ol 0's double weakened.

[Not Kuno]

Kuno, do you know your normal pDIF approximately? The only way I can see your damage tripling is if you go from ~1 to 3 pDIF (will make your crits 3.75 pDIF instead of 1.25). Songs being given didnt change at all?

I'm not sure what this means so don't know how to answer it. As for songs, I'm not sure if I had any or not at that particular time. I mean I see the brd casting Minuet on me right after, so I did have minuet on for the normal hit (which was about 30 seconds after). I had just used all my abilities when I got raised up (as shown by Sharpshot/Warcry wearing, as they are short duration) so I had V.Shot/Berserk up for sure, and I did eat a Coerul Sub too.

[Ruuz]

pDIF is just the function of RAtt/Def +- .025 per level difference. Your damage is determined by multiplying base damage (Ranged Weapon + Ammo + fSTR2) by pDIF. Assuming your damage went up three fold while using the same gear (STR wise), all I can guess is that your pDIF went from ~1 to 3 (the cap). I do not know if the crystal normally has some kind of resistance to ranged attacks, though I would suspect it if it were even possible for you to increase that much with same buffs/food/job abilities. Also, it shouldnt be possible for you to deal any damage, much less normal to 3x better damage. Glitched just for this fight maybe? I'd personally like to see if it can be replicated.

[Raineer]

Double weak ranger dmg wrapped around 0 and back to relic.

[Not Kuno]

I wish I screenshotted the whole fight.

I think I remember that eventually I did 0 dmg right before I got unweakened. My weapon and ammo were Vbow/Demon Arrows. I'm pretty sure the crystal takes normal damage from ranged, that seems to be the preferred strat.

[Drace]

Yea something is definitely buggy... I spent a good portion of these battles double (triple >_<) weakened on RNG, and for the 5% of shots I was able to land, I remember just seeing zeros.

[Sairasu23]

Ya it bugged. Happen to me other day at DI.