Good Job Britain

[Enkidu]

Freedom of expression comes with the responsibility to not incite hatred. By exercising their 'right' to be homophobic, racist, anti-semitic and anti-islamic these people are infringing those group's rights to not be subject to harrassment or violence - which I see as being more important than expression. I'm all in favour of banning extremists from entering the UK. This is the same reason I'm happy with extremist marches being banned.

Edit: Oh no! The Home Secretary of England is being sued.

I'm sure you'll curb harassment and violence by banning people from your country. I mean, there's really no other way for your citizens to access their media, right? Oh and plastering their names across media headlines surely wont help them spread their message to other like-minded people, so no worries there.

[Vekta]

I disagree with him being banned, let him come and say what he wants but if during the course of this he causes any trouble then kick his ass into touch. Just like should be happening with all these immigrants who keep coming over here and refusing to integrate.

However this Savage bloke seems to be a man in a glass house and thus he should stop throwing stones.

[Enkidu]

Just like should be happening with all these immigrants who keep coming over here and refusing to integrate.

It's funny because when you say this you're saying exactly what Savage says over and over on his show. I think you may have more in common with him then you think.

[Vekta]

Really because wanting the immigration system properly administrated fits in with his views so well...Theres a line between hating immigrants and being annoyed at those who abuse the system day in day out.

[Enkidu]

Really because wanting the immigration system properly administrated fits in with his views so well...Theres a line between hating immigrants and being annoyed at those who abuse the system day in day out.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Everyone knows how most in the UK feel about immigrants, and your previous post was pretty self-explanatory. Savage would say the same things, afterall, he doesn't hate immigrants, he just wants them to follow the law of the land!

[Shuemue]

Pretty sad people can't say they don't like a group of people in the UK, no matter how ignorant it is.

I can say what I like, when I like. It's my country. Dudes like Weiner aren't British citizens and different rules apply.

[Beckwin]

Savage talks shit about autistic kids too, don't forget that.

[Shuemue]

Everyone knows how most in the UK feel about immigrants

We want exactly what he said, the system to be administrated correctly. We have no problem with people who genuinely need help and are willing to pull their weight.

You've been reading the Daily Mail, haven't you?

[Beckwin]

I think it's funny how American rightists latch on to the sentiments of fringe anti-immigrant Brits as if it somehow justifies their own bullshit. Yes, England has some friction regarding immigration policy and how it interacts with social services, and they have some friction dealing with a growing Muslim population, but it's far away from turning into Anglos vs. the darkies on the streets, so keep your pants on, neocons.

[Correction]

Savage talks shit about autistic kids too, don't forget that.

I flipped off an entire box of autistic kids once.

[Demosthenes11]

I can say what I like, when I like. It's my country. Dudes like Weiner aren't British citizens and different rules apply.

US never tortured a citizen but because they weren't citizens they aren't guaranteed the same rights so its ok rite?

[Gregorio]

BG: Legislating morals as a government is fine as long as they're the morals that BG's democratic polling agency agrees with. [Note: Polling agency may be influenced by BG polling officials itself]

[Gregorio]

I can say what I like, when I like. It's my country. Dudes like Weiner aren't British citizens and different rules apply.

Until you say something that your country disagrees with. Then different rules may apply. I hope you're not a Star Trek fan, because word is that the Queen HATES that series.


P.S. - People in overseas detention camps weren't U.S. citizens either. Different rules apply. Democracy in action don't complain.

[Wintermute]

We want exactly what he said, the system to be administrated correctly. We have no problem with people who genuinely need help and are willing to pull their weight.

You've been reading the Daily Mail, haven't you?

Given BG's tendancy to "report" news from the UK I would say the Daily Mail and The Sun are all they read.

I don't get the big deal, the UK is taking pre-emptive action by preventing trouble-makers from entering the country and raising a fuss.
Given the UK's difficulty in getting rid of extremists in the past it's hardly surprising they're taking such measures.

Even if you were raging in the UK you could likely still read/hear all the shit these people get up to online, on the radio, or in the news. Just because they're not allowed to set foot on British soil doesn't mean the UK is going to start blocking airwaves, IP addresses etc.

[Enkidu]

We want exactly what he said, the system to be administrated correctly. We have no problem with people who genuinely need help and are willing to pull their weight.

You've been reading the Daily Mail, haven't you?

And by "administrated correctly" what do you mean, exactly? Like I was saying, it's just a blanket statement many use to cover up their true feelings. Savage would likely say something similar if called out about his obviously racist opinions.

Note my original response was to someone claiming immigrants who don't integrate should have their "ass kicked into touch"... Whatever that meant... Oh and I don't think you can claim that their isn't an out of control case of closet racism in the UK towards these immigrants, which is what I was touching on.

[The Stig]

And by "administrated correctly" what do you mean, exactly? Like I was saying, it's just a blanket statement many use to cover up their true feelings. Savage would likely say something similar if called out about his obviously racist opinions.

Note my original response was to someone claiming immigrants who don't integrate should have their "ass kicked into touch"... Whatever that meant... Oh and I don't think you can claim that their isn't an out of control case of closet racism in the UK towards these immigrants, which is what I was touching on.

I assume he means filtering people that actually need help/support that come into this country, not coming here and "stealing" benefits.

Some immigrants that do fuck all have a better quality of life than the average working britain...

Oh, as for "ass kicked into touch", it means that if someone was to settle into this country, at least "adapt" to it... basically foreigners come here they want us to bend over for them.

Good recent example, this guy is my hero, kinda:

Postmaster sacked for refusing to serve poorly spoken - Times Online

[Wintermute]

And by "administrated correctly" what do you mean, exactly? Like I was saying, it's just a blanket statement many use to cover up their true feelings. Savage would likely say something similar if called out about his obviously racist opinions.

Note my original response was to someone claiming immigrants who don't integrate should have their "ass kicked into touch"... Whatever that meant... Oh and I don't think you can claim that their isn't an out of control case of closet racism in the UK towards these immigrants, which is what I was touching on.

It's a Football (not Handegg) term used when the ball's out of play. Basically they need to get the fuck out.

The problem is that the UK does need to sort its Immigration out and get rid of the parasites who take advantage of the system.
However, when referring to such individuals the blanket term "Immigrant" is used, you won't find the Government use the term "Parasite" to isolate troublemakers or people taking advantage of the system since the UK is a case of Political Correctness gone insane.

However, when the argument to get rid of "bad" Immigrants is raised by individuals or media the wankstain racists see it as a chance to stir the pot to get rid of everyone (regardless of whether they're abusing the system or not) and the knee-jerk twats made of paper cry racism because they can't read between the lines.

Then the media pops in and make a huge fuss out of it because it needs sales/ratings/etc and divide the opinions further.

It's the whole "bad egg" thing. Just takes one person to fuck it up for everyone else, and the media only ever focuses on the bad egg which in turn warps the general public's views.

I'm of the opinion the parasites and troublemakers should be shipped out and the ones trying to earn a living and working hard for it should be allowed to stay.
There are people actively trying to integrate and working hard to earn their keep who end up in trouble because of the minority and it's not fair to them.


The "Integration" thing is also iffy since it can mean so many things.
What UK people are referring to isn't people who don't assimilate into UK culture 100% and become British omitting their past or upbringing.
They're referring to the idiots who migrate and refuse to make any effort at all. People who refuse to speak the language, who ignore social conventions, who declare themselves victims because they're lack of effort means they have nothing and so forth.

You don't join a team and then refuse to play because you don't like the colour of the uniform.

Over time any area with a large amount of a particular denomination eventually shows cultural change over time. There are parts of the UK which have a noticeable Muslim, Pakistani, or Indian vibe.
The reason people don't care is because it happened slowly and naturally as opposed to some nutter on the TV wailing that it should be x or y.

Basically it comes down to: "If you like east bumblefuck so much, you go back there. This is our country."
Again my opinion and interpretation, to each his own.


A lot of the problems with racism in the UK also has to do with extremists constantly trying to raise a row and contractors who bring in immigrants when there's UK citizens looking for work.

Few months ago there was a story of over 10,000 foreign workers hired and moved into the country to help build the stadiums for the London Olympics.
The contractors are in their rights, but totally ignoring the local work-pool always causes trouble and animosity regardless of country. Moreso given the recession.

[Bingbong]

BG: It's cool to ban people from your country you don't agree with

how can anyone think this is a good thing...What would be the tone here if the USA blacklisted 20 communists from the country today? Savage isn't even that bad lol...retardedly homophobic? yes. Further right than the GOP? nope lol.
I know I want to live in a country that bans people they don't agree with; china is a wonderful place to live

THIS^^

Free speech only when it's stuff you agree with.. go go hive mind!
Banning people for their opinions, no matter how much you disagree with them is stupid, plain and simple.

[Kuya]

So some brits here think that some immigrants are parasites that need to be gotten rid of, but not all immigrants are parasites, but they need to get rid of the immigrants that are parasites, but not all immigrants are parasites, but they need to get rid of the immigrants that are parasites, but not all immigrants are parasites, but they need to get rid of immigrants that are parasites, get rid of the parasites, get rid of the immigrants, get rid of the parasites, get rid of the immigrants, get rid of the parasites, get rid of the immigrants- they're the ones causing us all this trouble.

[Rammses]

If you want your country to be exclusive based on heritage, maybe you should also take responsibility for your heritage. ?