California marijuana debate

[Dench]

I hate the idea of agreeing to taxes, restrictions on use, etc.. but anything to get the ball moving would be nice at this point.

Have to start somewhere, I guess.

[Demosthenes11]

I hate the idea of agreeing to taxes, restrictions on use, etc.. but anything to get the ball moving would be nice at this point.

Have to start somewhere, I guess.

...why? Everything is taxed, what makes this different? Restrictions would be set for public safety - ie driving, public use, etc. what in that is bad? lol

[Dench]

...why? Everything is taxed, what makes this different? Restrictions would be set for public safety - ie driving, public use, etc. what in that is bad? lol

I've never been one to appreciate government in control of public safety, that's all. I'm not sure it is necessarily "lol" worthy.

[miokomioko]

I've never been one to appreciate government in control of public safety, that's all. I'm not sure it is necessarily "lol" worthy.

You must be new here. (in the civilized world, that is)


(edit) I almost forgot: whoah duuude weed, etc, etc

[Demosthenes11]

I've never been one to appreciate government in control of public safety, that's all. I'm not sure it is necessarily "lol" worthy.

fuck man neither am I but what is bad about it being illegal to drive under the influence of a drug? It's not just your life you are risking. Don't use blanket statements that apply to everything. Think

[Kohan]

I've never been one to appreciate government in control of public safety, that's all. I'm not sure it is necessarily "lol" worthy.

You are willing to negotiate, and no, that isn't laughable. Having a personal opinion and preference is fine, as long as you are willing to talk things through and come to compromises.

[Dench]

fuck man neither am I but what is bad about it being illegal to drive under the influence of a drug? It's not just your life you are risking. Don't use blanket statements that apply to everything. Think

.. wow.

An interesting way to derail. You want to make it legal but are still afraid of its effects on members of society. Why is it illegal again?

[archibaldcrane]

It sure as hell wasn't made illegal because of fears of driving under the influence.

[Dench]

brb putting on my copy of Reefer Madness.

[Gadritan]

Why is it illegal again?

Greed.

Long story short, some fat cats were going to lose a lot of money to hemp, so they began a ridiculous campaign full of propaganda portraying it as basically pure evil.

It had nothing to do with the effects of it. Money was the soul motivation for making it illegal.

And..

A BAG OF WEED! A BAG OF WEED! EVERYTHING IS BETTER WITH A BAG OF WEED!

[archibaldcrane]

Why is Marijuana Illegal?

Of course the source is crap, but it's a damn interesting read on why Marijuana is illegal.

[Gadritan]

Actually that's almost exactly what I was referring to.

[Demosthenes11]

.. wow.

An interesting way to derail. You want to make it legal but are still afraid of its effects on members of society. Why is it illegal again?

why are guns legal? why is alcohol legal? why is high fructose corn syrup legal? why are high-drowsy medications legal?

[Gadritan]

Some samples from the San Francisco Examiner:

"Marihuana makes fiends of boys in thirty days -- Hashish goads users to bloodlust."

"By the tons it is coming into this country -- the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms.... Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him...."

And other nationwide columns...

"Users of marijuana become STIMULATED as they inhale the drug and are LIKELY TO DO ANYTHING. Most crimes of violence in this section, especially in country districts are laid to users of that drug."

"Was it marijuana, the new Mexican drug, that nerved the murderous arm of Clara Phillips when she hammered out her victim's life in Los Angeles?... THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CRIMES of violence in this country today are committed by DOPE SLAVES -- that is a matter of cold record."


That's the kind of shit they were preaching to a public that didn't know any better.

[Kiro]

If marijuana is legalized I'm opening up a coffee shop. "Specialty" baked goods, live music and pipes / misc. tools / whatever else I can think of.

[Gadritan]

Can I live upstairs?

[Kiro]

I don't care. I get the basement because I can play music as loud as I want. Plus you can't hear screams from down there.

[Gadritan]

Deal~

[Oxyminus]

I'm heading to California for vacation in a week. Be nice if this were done by then lol

[Penthesilea]

I caught a documentary on TV the other day on those who were first able to use medical marijuana.

During it, they had a anti weed commercial from the 80's with a little girl riding her bicycle, and some dude flying out of a parking lot and he nails her. Then they close up on a joint in his ashtray.

Thought it was kinda funny, because when I've driven high, I go like 5mph everywhere.