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  1. #101
    Bagel
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    You lost me on the word "mules" mate.

  2. #102
    Dulek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    Yes, for the winners you reactivate, but not for all of them. He's talking about deactivating all the mules, then re-activating only the ones that win.

    Ahh, thanks Kerbz. This might save me about 10-15 dollars then if unlucky across multiple mules.

  3. #103
    Cerberus
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    So what's the deal with getting only four numbers sometimes when you choose random?

    Will they just maybe not pick all five numbers? (I don't think this, just saying.)

    Seems a bit busted to me.

  4. #104
    Sea Torques
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    Digits are 0-9, let's say you random 09876 the initial 0 just isn't displayed.

  5. #105
    Dulek
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    Just like on a calculator.

    If you type 00005 + 00005, it is going to equal 10, not 00010. The zeros preceding the value number is kinda redundant.

  6. #106
    Campaign
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    Question: Does the PS2/3 Moogle still only random EOEOE (or OEOEO)?

  7. #107
    assburgers
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    No it does not, I had one random me for a test and it gave me like EOEEO, then EOOEE and shit, they fixed it.

    I did 45~74 on the last 2 digits and 3d10 for the first three across my three toons.

  8. #108
    Brown Recluse
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Unicorn

    I let the moogle pick my number, but I made sure the last number was different on all marbles

    XXXX0
    XXXX1
    XXXX2
    XXXX3
    XXXX4
    XXXX5
    XXXX6
    XXXX7
    XXXX8
    XXXX9

  9. #109
    Relic Horn
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    Xanthe Celaeno
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    I did 32 characters across two accounts. XXX00 - XXX99 three times over to guarantee at least 3 rank 4 prizes. I used random.org to fill in the prefix and to pick the numbers for the remaining two characters. On my main I made sure that I have 3 sets of numbers ending in the same digit for a 1/3 chance of getting all 3 statues, and a 4/9 chance of getting at least one statue. I had a slightly less than 1/3 chance of a rank 3 prize as well. The worst part was buying marbles for all 32 characters.

  10. #110
    Salvage Bans
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    Buttons Taru
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    I did 32 characters across two accounts. XXX00 - XXX99 three times over to guarantee at least 3 rank 4 prizes. I used random.org to fill in the prefix and to pick the numbers for the remaining two characters. On my main I made sure that I have 3 sets of numbers ending in the same digit for a 1/3 chance of getting all 3 statues, and a 4/9 chance of getting at least one statue. I had a slightly less than 1/3 chance of a rank 3 prize as well. The worst part was buying marbles for all 32 characters.
    Dang. O.o"

    I only have my one character and no mules so I just bought 10 marbles on Buttons and had them end on 0-9 so that I will at least win a statue. Who knows, maybe I'll even win something else, I'll just wait and see and hope. ^_^

  11. #111
    Human Being
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    I did 32 characters across two accounts. XXX00 - XXX99 three times over to guarantee at least 3 rank 4 prizes. I used random.org to fill in the prefix and to pick the numbers for the remaining two characters. On my main I made sure that I have 3 sets of numbers ending in the same digit for a 1/3 chance of getting all 3 statues, and a 4/9 chance of getting at least one statue. I had a slightly less than 1/3 chance of a rank 3 prize as well. The worst part was buying marbles for all 32 characters.
    lol me too!

  12. #112
    EternalBlowJob
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darwinion View Post
    I'm a bit of a geek when it comes to probabilities and working out systems. I have 12 mules plus my main so I decided to make sure three of my characters are guaranteed to win all three statues for their moghouse. Plus I be guaranteed at least one Rank 4 prize somewhere. 30% chance of getting 2x Rank 4.

    Three of the mules reside in Jeuno so I took them out of the equation (can't place furnishings). That left 10 characters which fit perfectly to cover 00 to 99 for last two digits. I just ensured that each character had 3x3 different sets of marbles ending in the same digit. 10th marble for each character just covered 90-99.

    The three Jeuno mules just had random 5 digits. But I ensured that the last three digits didn't match any of the last three from the first ten characters (or same last two digits from another Jeuno marble). Seeing as there is one marble with matching last two digits for every one of the 30 Jeuno marbles this was a distinct possibility. (In fact it happened two or three times out of the thirty so I just tweaked the middle digit up by one on each occasion).

    Using this method I calculate I have a 13% chance of winning a rank 3 prize.

    See? I told you I was a geek for this kind of thing.
    I think this is not possible though. I honestly believe SE just picks numbers that they see are the most random and that very few have entered the same by chance. lol

  13. #113
    New Merits
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    Quote Originally Posted by EternalSnow View Post
    I think this is not possible though. I honestly believe SE just picks numbers that they see are the most random and that very few have entered the same by chance. lol
    That's why it takes them 2 weeks to release the winning numbers. They're finding a number that only 50? people have for rank 1, etc. It would be pretty funny if their rank 1 had 5000 winners =P

  14. #114
    EternalBlowJob
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    Quote Originally Posted by hypnotizd View Post
    That's why it takes them 2 weeks to release the winning numbers. They're finding a number that only 50? people have for rank 1, etc. It would be pretty funny if their rank 1 had 5000 winners =P
    Oh I was just stating my opinion lol :X.

  15. #115
    Relic Weapons
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    Quote Originally Posted by EternalSnow View Post
    Oh I was just stating my opinion lol :X.
    Oh I totally agree with you both. I also believe that SE looks to see what number has the least winners for Rank 1. But one number cannot be any more random than another. Random is random. I just have to hope that one of mine is in the least chosen category.

  16. #116
    New Spam Forum
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    I thought they stated that they had some tumbler and picked a number from that? It was in some interview after the last one. It was when they said they couldn't call it a lotto due to legal reasons and had to come up with the word bonanza.

    *shrug*

  17. #117
    CoP Dynamis
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    I was wondering if it's actually random or not. Like if it was theoretically possible they could pick a number that nobody has. I would hope they at least do it more like a raffle than a lottery and only pick from numbers that exist. It would be awful if nobody won. I wonder if they would adjust the payout for lower ranks if that happened.

    And thinking more than I should, with the new gil payout system being a percentage of all gil from all worlds, a lone rank 1 winner would get like 8 billion gil. Is there a limit on how much gil you can hold?

  18. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Is there a limit on how much gil you can hold?
    It's 999,999,999 I believe.

  19. #119
    assburgers
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    It's gil from YOUR server, not all servers, I thought?

  20. #120
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    It's gil from YOUR server, not all servers, I thought?
    Nope.

    [ Regarding Gil Prizes ]

    The amount of gil awarded for each rank will be determined by first taking a percentage value (listed below) of the proceeds of marble sales in all worlds, then further dividing the resultant figure by the total number of winners representing each rank.

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