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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Kinda seems like it sucks the fun out of the game when you Pokesav everything. When you go as far to pokesav one pokemon then why not pokesav them all, then the TMs and moves and get all the pokemon. Seems like it would make the game boring, but everyone has their own way of playing.
    Who is talking about pokesaving everything? a few unobtainable pokemon means everything? Some people don't have the means of going to every shitty nintendo event to get it, and in almost every pokemon game we could dupe items/pokemon some how, either missingno or save box glitchs and ect.
    The game goes boring when YOU make it boring, not because you editted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    So i though we could get 3 pokemon in the pokewalker but i am unable to put my pidgey and caterpie?

    Does i mean i can put 1 of my pokemon and catch 2? or can i unlock the spaces with badges or something?
    You can put ONE of your pokemon on the pokewalker, then CATCH pokemon while using it. You can also obtain 3 items max from dowsing, and then you'll need to xfer those over to your DS in order to obtain more.

    My lugia figure came in the mail today from Gamestop from when I complained to corporate about not getting one. Back to work. If you sent me a PM and I haven't replied, I'm not ignoring you, just busy with work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    If your in car or in subway does it count like walking?
    Also last question about pokewalker
    Exemple i connect my poke to the DS then take a 30min car ride, when i start walking after the ride will it work or will i need to reconnect it?
    Sorta. It's not as effective as walking around, but driving to work always gets me some steps. I put my pokewalker in my boyfriend's pocket one day when he went to his friend's house and to Chili's. When he came home I had around 2000 steps from that, but I figure most of it was prob from him jumping around at band practice.

    I mean, even if it's just a little bit, you should always carry around your pokewalker everywhere for the extra steps/watts. No reason not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentaiShinigami View Post
    Yeah you could only get one prior to HG/SS, but now you can get them in the Celadon Department Store in HG/SS. For the low low price of 2000p too. =D

    http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/TM76
    Fair enough. Looked up Roost, Focus Punch, and I think Seismic Toss to of no avail. I know you could've learned Seismic Toss through an older game, think it was Emerald, FireRed and LeafGreen which I do not have any of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post
    Fair enough. Looked up Roost, Focus Punch, and I think Seismic Toss to of no avail. I know you could've learned Seismic Toss through an older game, think it was Emerald, FireRed and LeafGreen which I do not have any of...
    Yeah, I haven't looked at all the other TMs just did a quick looksie when you mentioned Stealth Rock cause I need quite a few of those too lol. I personally don't have a problem with any cheating. Whatever someone wants to do is their business (*as long as it doesn't affect other people). =D I just personally don't use my "sav'd" pokemon for anything but fun and toying around. I'd never for instance go to a tournament (even though they would pass legit checks) or battle on Wi-Fi with 'em or trade them under the guise of being legit out of principle.

    I've sav'd some wondercards onto my copy of Pearl, and patched the Dexoys Distro Rom so I could give my retail Platinum wondercards (using 2 DS) of some of the events I missed recently. The poke still end up the same as if I went so I don't see much problem with it. Like for instance I started Platinum in July of last year, and after a few months got burned out, and of course stuff like Arceus came out then and I totally missed it cause I didn't start Platinum back till January lol.

    I wouldn't go so far as to hack myself like say Masterballs though cause it makes to too easy in the end to catch stuff, and then winning the freakin lottery finally (one day >_>) wouldn't be very special (it gives a Masterball).

    Anywho, done with Ninja Assassin (kicked ass, and wow didn't realize that was Rain till the end credits ^^;) so it's time to spam breed some Riolu again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meian View Post
    Fair enough. Looked up Roost, Focus Punch, and I think Seismic Toss to of no avail. I know you could've learned Seismic Toss through an older game, think it was Emerald, FireRed and LeafGreen which I do not have any of...
    Seismic Toss hasn't been on a TM since the first generation of games.

    You're right about Roost and Focus Punch though, the TMs are one time only. Although especially in the case of Focus Punch, I can understand why Gamefreak and Nintendo didn't want entire teams of Pokemon running around with 5 Focus Punch users.

    edit: Also, to whoever mentioned Soft Resetting in regards to hatching eggs.. That doesn't work, does it? I seem to remember IV's, Nature and the whole nine yards being determined when you get the egg itself, not when it hatches. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

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    Focus Punch in D/P/Pt

    If you were super lucky you could get multiple Focus Punch legitly with Pickup in D/P/Pt if the poke is between lv71-90. Though the chance is 1% to pick it up. Just something to remember if you need multiple copies of it.

    Edit @Rokku: No, you can't soft-reset eggs. Unless you mean soft-resetting to BEFORE you got the egg for the old man. The stats are all determined at the time you receive an egg as you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentaiShinigami View Post
    Edit @Rokku: No you can't soft-reset eggs. Unless you mean soft-resetting to BEFORE you got the egg for the old man. The stats are all determined at the time you receive an egg.
    That's what I thought. I just didn't see anyone say anything in response to someone mentioning SRing eggs for Shiny pokemon, and I didn't want to jump out and be like "roar this is the truth" without being 110% sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokku View Post
    That's what I thought. I just didn't see anyone say anything in response to someone mentioning SRing eggs for Shiny pokemon, and I didn't want to jump out and be like "roar this is the truth" without being 110% sure.
    Yeah I hear ya, I didn't even see it. @_@ Guess I accidentally skimmed past it or something lol.

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    So anyone else playing this game on a R4 DS/Acekard 2/etc and having it freeze randomly while playing?

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    Certain things are decided upon receiving the egg, others are not, this makes it beneficial to SR in some cases, if I recall correctly. Nature may or may not be one of those things, or sex. I'm not entirely sure though, I just remember back when I was into it there was a benefit to soft resetting sometimes.

    Also have you guys read about the EV enhancing items in HG/SS? They now pass down the corresponding IV stat from the parent holding it to the baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk View Post
    Certain things are decided upon receiving the egg, others are not, this makes it beneficial to SR in some cases, if I recall correctly. Nature may or may not be one of those things, or sex. I'm not entirely sure though, I just remember back when I was into it there was a benefit to soft resetting sometimes.

    Also have you guys read about the EV enhancing items in HG/SS? They now pass down the corresponding IV stat from the parent holding it to the baby.
    That's right. Nature/Gender/Shiny or not is determined when you get the egg, IVs aren't until it hatches. Thanks for jogging the ol' memory on that one.

    And yeah, I saw the thing about the EV items, it's a pretty sweet shortcut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk View Post
    Certain things are decided upon receiving the egg, others are not, this makes it beneficial to SR in some cases, if I recall correctly. Nature may or may not be one of those things, or sex. I'm not entirely sure though, I just remember back when I was into it there was a benefit to soft resetting sometimes.

    Also have you guys read about the EV enhancing items in HG/SS? They now pass down the corresponding IV stat from the parent holding it to the baby.
    I'm guessing this is what you are probably thinking about (you still have to reset to before you take the egg in this scenario).

    It basically just says that everything but IV's is already locked down as soon as the egg is generated. Even before you've accepted it from the old man. If you save while he has the egg, but you haven't taken it yet you can keep soft-resetting until you get the IV's you want on it, and it will always have the same ability, gender and nature. If you have an egg already though there is nothing that will change from soft-resetting and re-hatching it as I understand it.

    I do appreciate you bringing that up though as this will be highly useful knowledge I didn't know about when I start working on my Riolu with egg moves. I just have to keep saving before I pick up the egg until I get one that has perfect nature and ability then I can just keep SRing until I get perfect (good at least) IV's! So thanks! =D

    Edit @Rokku: Almost, the IV's are generated when you accept the egg from him that's why you have to soft-reset to before taking it to keep trying for better IVs. ^_~

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    Soft Reset Method

    This method is based on the fact that in Emerald, Diamond and Pearl, gender, nature (personality) and ability (trait) are already set (locked) as soon as the egg is created, before you take it. That means that if you save exactly before taking the egg and then soft reset, the Pokémon inside the egg will have the same gender, nature and ability if you load again.

    1. Save in front of the Day Care man.
    2. Take the egg.
    3. Bike on the breeding route.
    4. Ignore the next egg proposed to you by the Day Care man.
    5. Hatch the egg.
    6. Check the newly hatched Pokémon to see whether it does have the desired gender, nature and ability and
      • If it doesn't have the desired gender/nature/ability, save in front of the Day Care man again (there should be another egg waiting for you, which was produced while you hatched the first one) and repeat the process until you get a suitable baby.
      • If it does have the desired gender/nature/ability, but it doesn't have the desired IVs, soft reset the game (START+SELECT+A+B) and take the egg again (gender/nature/ability won't change, only the IVs), hatch and check the IVs, repeat the process until you get the IVs you want.


    Pros:
    • The gender, nature and ability you want are set in stone.
    • This method is useful to get a female Pokémon with the right nature and a few perfect IVs.
    • It is also useful if the parents don't like each other much.

    Cons:
    • Not many babies are bred and checked using this method, which means that it can get hard to get the right IVs when there isn't a high probability.
    • This method does not suit persons who care about game time more than anything else.

    It is recommended that this method is used in the beginning, when the probabilities to get the IVs you want are still relatively high (like when getting 1 or 2 flawless IVs). Alternatively, you can use this method when you're trying to get a female parent with the right nature. If you want to breed for 3 flawless IVs or more, where the probability of getting the desired IVs is less than 1 in 50, the running method is recommended.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GentaiShinigami View Post
    I'm guessing this is what you are probably thinking about (you still have to reset to before you take the egg in this scenario).

    It basically just says that everything but IV's is already locked down as soon as the egg is generated. Even before you've accepted it from the old man. If you save while he has the egg, but you haven't taken it yet you can keep soft-resetting until you get the IV's you want on it, and it will always have the same ability, gender and nature. If you have an egg already though there is nothing that will change from soft-resetting and re-hatching it as I understand it.

    I do appreciate you bringing that up though as this will be highly useful knowledge I didn't know about when I start working on my Riolu with egg moves. I just have to keep saving before I pick up the egg until I get one that has perfect nature and ability then I can just keep SRing until I get perfect (good at least) IV's! So thanks! =D

    Edit @Rokku: Almost, the IV's are generated when you accept the egg from him that's why you have to soft-reset to before taking it to keep trying for better IVs. ^_~

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    Yep that was exactly it, it makes breeding a ton easier. It's also an easy way to get decent breeding pairs for your breeding. SR after you've gotten a female with the right nature and then SR until you get good IVs, unless you have a hax ditto with the right nature. Although I'm not even sure if passing nature on via Everstone works in this generation, can anyone give insight into this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguspk View Post
    Yep that was exactly it, it makes breeding a ton easier. It's also an easy way to get decent breeding pairs for your breeding. SR after you've gotten a female with the right nature and then SR until you get good IVs, unless you have a hax ditto with the right nature. Although I'm not even sure if passing nature on via Everstone works in this generation, can anyone give insight into this?
    The Everstone works in D/P/Pt I know, but won't work if you are using (either intentionally or not) the Masuda method (breeding with two different countries pokemon). Everstone breeding should still work in HG/SS from what I'm reading as long as the poke are from same country as stated above.

    Finally got my stupid female Riolu to evolve so now I can finally start trying to breed my first egg move =O Working on giving a Riolu Crunch via Luxray first then hoping to have a male Lucario with Crunch pass it down with a JP Ditto as the parent for extra chance at shiny while I'm spam breeding for good stats. Crappy part is I have to make the male Riolu with Crunch evolve via happiness into Lucario so I can breed it -_- That will be 3 Riolu I am not going to ever use I will have had to cap happiness on just to do breeding lol. So annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurokikaze View Post
    So anyone else playing this game on a R4 DS/Acekard 2/etc and having it freeze randomly while playing?
    Cyclos DS here, No problems ever since the firmware update

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    Acekard 2i here, playing on DS. haven't had any freezing issues at all.

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    Actually never mind I'm just gonna roll with Extremespeed and save myself the headache of another egg move. XD

    Edit2: Am I thinking of this wrong or is it impossible to get two egg moves on one pokemon o_o; Like I was going to try for Crunch and Bullet Punch on a Lucario, but I can't pass both of them on because for an offspring to know Crunch the dad has to know Crunch, but no dad can know both of those moves. Forgive my ignorance this is my first time dabbling in egg moves. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnell View Post
    Who is talking about pokesaving everything? a few unobtainable pokemon means everything? Some people don't have the means of going to every shitty nintendo event to get it, and in almost every pokemon game we could dupe items/pokemon some how, either missingno or save box glitchs and ect.
    The game goes boring when YOU make it boring, not because you editted it
    True, and that would make it boring to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentaiShinigami View Post
    Actually never mind I'm just gonna roll with Extremespeed and save myself the headache of another egg move. XD

    Edit2: Am I thinking of this wrong or is it impossible to get two egg moves on one pokemon o_o; Like I was going to try for Crunch and Bullet Punch on a Lucario, but I can't pass both of them on because for an offspring to know Crunch the dad has to know Crunch, but no dad can know both of those moves. Forgive my ignorance this is my first time dabbling in egg moves. xD
    If your father cannot have all the egg moves no. You need to be able to get all the egg moves on one parent. You can get multiple egg moves if you manage to get them on one father though.

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