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    Comparing stats to skill

    Hi,

    I was wondering if it makes any difference if your Weapon skill goes beyond 300 being a warrior with capped Gaxe merits + a fort torque being @ 299

    now getting a headsman ring which gives +3 gaxe skill pushes me 302

    however compared to the Ulthalam's Ring which is acc 4 atk 4

    which is better since Skill only gives 1 acc 1 atk?

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    Uthalam > Headsman.

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    The only weapon skill class that receives more than just Attack/Acc from Skill+ is Hand-to-Hand. H2H Base DMG is tiered, based on your skill, and 300 h2h would break the game. For all other skills, each point above 200 is .9 acc, .9 attack (Each skill point below 200 being worth 1acc/attack). Going from 299 skill to 302 skill is a jump from 289.1 to 291.8, flooring at 291. 4 acc/attack > 2 acc/attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    The only weapon skill class that receives more than just Attack/Acc from Skill+ is Hand-to-Hand. H2H Base DMG is tiered, based on your skill, and 300 h2h would break the game. For all other skills, each point above 200 is .9 acc, .9 attack (Each skill point below 200 being worth 1acc/attack). Going from 299 skill to 302 skill is a jump from 289.1 to 291.8, flooring at 291. 4 acc/attack > 2 acc/attack.
    Just a quick correction, skill over 200 is still 1 attack per level, it's just accuracy that changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    The only weapon skill class that receives more than just Attack/Acc from Skill+ is Hand-to-Hand. H2H Base DMG is tiered, based on your skill, and 300 h2h would break the game. For all other skills, each point above 200 is .9 acc, .9 attack (Each skill point below 200 being worth 1acc/attack). Going from 299 skill to 302 skill is a jump from 289.1 to 291.8, flooring at 291. 4 acc/attack > 2 acc/attack.
    All jobs gain weapon rank from skill, not only "acc/attack". And it's not the first time I see the 0.9 att either ... and 0.9 acc is not totally accuracte either; you have to understand what it means. It's either +1accuracy or +0 accuracy.

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    That's why I floored it at 291. I do understand the math, it's just a bit garbled. And oops, I did mess up on attack being 1:1 <_> you didn't see that.

    As for all weapons gaining weapon rank from skill, this is the first I've ever heard of that. Where's that coming from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    That's why I floored it at 291. I do understand the math, it's just a bit garbled. And oops, I did mess up on attack being 1:1 <_> you didn't see that.

    As for all weapons gaining weapon rank from skill, this is the first I've ever heard of that. Where's that coming from?
    bah nvm I was thinking of something else, only H2H it seems.

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    ah, kay xD. You scared me for a minute there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    It's either +1accuracy or +0 accuracy.
    From my understanding, I was under the impression that acc rounds down AFTER it is added up.

    So for example if you have 2.5 acc and 2.6 acc

    A) 2.5 acc~ 2 acc + 2.6 acc~ 2 acc = 4 acc
    B) 2.5 acc + 2.6 acc = 5.1 acc~ 5 acc

    I was under the impress you'd go with situation B

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    That's how I interpreted it as well. In fact, if that wasn't the case, we'd get 0 accuracy from any skill over 200 since each .9 added would be floored to 0. So it has to be situation B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    From my understanding, I was under the impression that acc rounds down AFTER it is added up.

    So for example if you have 2.5 acc and 2.6 acc

    A) 2.5 acc~ 2 acc + 2.6 acc~ 2 acc = 4 acc
    B) 2.5 acc + 2.6 acc = 5.1 acc~ 5 acc

    I was under the impress you'd go with situation B
    Yes, which is why I say "0.9" is not technically correct. For instance if you compare Faith torque to PCC, if you consider 1skill=0.9acc in your maths the result will never reflect reality. Faith will give either 6 or 7 accuracy, never 6.3.

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