Did they ninja nerf Dyna drop rates?

[Teorem]

I'm saying that droprates are high enough the chances of getting only one city drop while clearing a decent amount of shit with a THF are next to nothing. If you call an AF drop 3% with a THF present, and clear everything before repops but no repops themselves(~300 mobs) your chances of getting 1 AF are 0.096774912944169073534907861071547%.. or a little below 1/1000. If you clear repops or droprate is higher than 3%(pretty sure wizerd parsed %s for a while, maybe he'll see this), that chance drops drastically.

Not to diminish the point that it's very unlikely to come out of any Dynamis city zone with one or less AF pieces nowadays, but the numbers of Vanguard pre-boss are actually a lot lower. Bastok, for example, has 198 Vanguard + NMs before the boss, which makes the chance at 0 or 1 AF (assuming n=200 and p=0.03) an order of magnitude higher, at 1.6%.

It's still very, very unlikely though. Before the updated drop rates, I would have easily supported a 1% rate in Northlands zones with the numbers of times we walked out completely or near empty-handed.

With regard to the OP, in general, our recent results don't support any noticeable change in drop rates in the last month; we've run every zone except Jeuno in that time span. We've received 8-18 AF in Xarcabard, 14-16 in Beaucedine (15 last night), and typically bad AF-1 and relic belt/cape drops in CoP zones which are par for the course for us.

[Kaelia]

If by drop rates getting nerfed you mean BLU head not dropping for me in Xarcabard then yes. They got nerfed.

[Apelila]

I know but it makes me angry thinking about it. lol

The 'oh, this would fuck over a lot of people' aspect of that makes me subscribe to that newsletter.

[Wolfknight]

If by drop rates getting nerfed you mean BLU head not dropping for me in Xarcabard then yes. They got nerfed.

this dammit, not a single one dropped for my ls since I got blu 75 ;x

[Izzy]

We definitely got 3 Valor Surcoats last Xarcabard on top of a bunch of other shit.

Gonna say it wasn't nerfed lol.

[Byrthnoth]

Dynamis-Bubu seems okay:
3 Melee Gloves -1
2 Etiole Bangles -1
1 Scholar's Gloves -1
1 Scout's Bracers -1
1 Duelist's Gloves -1
1 Koga Tekko -1
1 Warrior's Stone
1 Melee cape
1 Wyrm Belt

It would have been cool to get more decent drops, but eh what can you do?

[Kaylia]

i believe drops is while stocks last

look how many 35s there are when zhalyom remnant frogs were first discovered XD

I seriously think there is something like this. ANNM, ZNM, ISNM, all those thing gave me awesome drop rate the first week, then it got shitty.

[Enedin]

other than the rare rdm/blm hat

Our "3 Sorcerer's Petasos in 15 min"-Tavnazia disagrees with you. All our other runs agree with you though.

[Kerberoz]

Certain drops only seem rare because more people want them. Droprates of the original 15 jobs are all the same.

[Maksudyst]

The 3 scout's belts in my dynamis ls's treasure pool at once at the last Buburimu run would say they have not been nerfed.

Although, there are many drier runs. Just random.

[Shinryuu]

Certain drops only seem rare because more people want them. Droprates of the original 15 jobs are all the same.

This x1000. Human mind won't consider a drop a drop if they lost the lot on it.

[Sephknight]

Drop rate for the original jobs can´t be the same if you add the new jobs af into the equation,
I get pup/sch more than anythin else lately

[Chen]

Drop rate for the original jobs can´t be the same if you add the new jobs af into the equation,
I get pup/sch more than anythin else lately

takes up different spot in treasure pool, hence double AF(normal+ToAU) drops now being reported quite frequently

[Sephknight]

takes up different spot in treasure pool, hence double AF(normal+ToAU) drops now being reported quite frequently

I honestly dont understand ,
TOAH/WOTG jobs drop rate calculate separated from 15 starters jobs ?
The big increase i do have seen is double-triple drops from the same af .

[Rilu]

It was just CoP and northlands iirc. Our last bunch of xarcs were lots of crap and lots of cor (ie crap cause nobody has cor).

Yea, 4 years of dynamis and 11 relics later, our LS has never gotten good AF drops during runs. I can remember maybe 3-4 runs where we had TONS Of AF drop, but usually if we see 4-5 on a northlands run with 1 hundred piece (not counting DL), thats pretty average. Cities seem to be a bit higher, like 6-8 AF drops and 2ish hundred pieces.

And yea, the good AF drops just as much as the crappy AF, just it seems the good stuff never drops "enough" because there are 10 people going for RDM AF2 hat, and when it drops, that means there are still 9 people wanting it next run, not counting the 1-2 people who finally got rdm to 75 as their 13th jobs and now are wanting to lot it as well, pushing the number of people going for RDM to 11-12.

Dynamis drops is all about the Min-Max effect- Only time we complain about the drop rate is when we want the better/best pieces from that area ie. BLM AF2 hat (like me!) and it just never seems to drop when i'm there (except for the tavnazia I passed going on and let someone else go instead, and 2 hats dropped that run... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr).

[Isiolia]

This x1000. Human mind won't consider a drop a drop if they lost the lot on it.

It's more like the chance of a given item dropping is the same. The actual results of that chance vary. It took 35-40 Xarc runs for me to see a Duelist's Chapeau actually drop. In that time, you can bet we got more than one of some other jobs. Doesn't mean it had any less of a chance to drop, just means that for the groups I was with, it didn't random up.

I honestly dont understand ,
TOAH/WOTG jobs drop rate calculate separated from 15 starters jobs ?
The big increase i do have seen is double-triple drops from the same af .

The other jobs have their own drop slots, yeah. You can't get multiple of the original 15 Dynamis jobs from one mob...you can get one of those plus one of the newer jobs. It's how they handled the "no less of a chance to get previous relic pieces" deal.

[Sephknight]

The other jobs have their own drop slots, yeah. You can't get multiple of the original 15 Dynamis jobs from one mob...you can get one of those plus one of the newer jobs. It's how they handled the "no less of a chance to get previous relic pieces" deal.

i see,it is true i have seen 2 afs drop of the same mob more than once, altought i dont remember what af it was, must have been this.
Thank you.

[Shin Volcano]

I'm saying that droprates are high enough the chances of getting only one city drop while clearing a decent amount of shit with a THF are next to nothing. If you call an AF drop 3% with a THF present, and clear everything before repops but no repops themselves(~300 mobs) your chances of getting 1 AF are 0.096774912944169073534907861071547%.. or a little below 1/1000. If you clear repops or droprate is higher than 3%(pretty sure wizerd parsed %s for a while, maybe he'll see this), that chance drops drastically.

Well we thought so to, granted we didn't get a full clear for example, but we got most up to and killed Mega boss and farmed after, and still was stuck with only 1 AF.

[Thorshammer]

sometimes nothing drop.... sometimes something drop!
:O

[Shin Volcano]

Drop rate for the original jobs can´t be the same if you add the new jobs af into the equation,
I get pup/sch more than anythin else lately

This one is odd because our biggest flaw is PUP and SCH (well not so much sch but more pup) out of the last 2-3 months we've done dynamis only ever saw 2 PUP Af and it was hands in a windy run and feet in sandy, other then that, it never drops. PUP body seems to be the rarest for me.

SCH on the other hand, we have seen alot of feet (well they did before i joined) but the other ones never want to drop, Xarc seems very stingy with the hat.