Spellcast Help Thread (Link your XML using Pastebin.com for help!)

[Aikar]

byrth that should work, but the game itself has some min delays between fast equip swaps, and even so more strict on 2 of the same equipment as you describe.

you may need to increase delays between.

[Yugl]

Can we get this moved to the Completed Spellcast thread?

This Fri/Sat I plan on reviewing what we've done and summarizing it here for Motenten to confirm and then I'll post a list of stuff that's gone on in a clean format. My life is too miserable to do that now though.

[Motenten]

Special note: per SE release notes today, blu will be getting Barbed Crescent. As such, we need to remove that from the trigger list.

[Slore]

After looking through post, xml section and pastebin directly im noticing not alot of bst xml's, i know spellcast would be amazing for bst with idle/engaged/rewardetc sets but after having tried 15 non working xml's i must ask is there a underlying issue with bst and spellcast or am i just missing some good xml's? If anyone has a working one please by all means pm me or reply, but still answer question on isssues

[Yugl]

Special note: per SE release notes today, blu will be getting Barbed Crescent. As such, we need to remove that from the trigger list.

Not if it's /ja Barbed Crescent? I was about to ask about that.

[Motenten]

Hm. True, it could still be differentiable. Will have to test it to be sure.

[Julian]

with what im proposing you would be able to use a system called CoffeeScript that is very similiar to ruby (it was created by the crowd who came from Ruby...)

http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/

Its a compiler that compiles to JS, so youd be able to write your files in that syntax instead (something I was planning to support before you even asked)

:D That looks pretty cool.

What about the first question.

[Caylene]

Question:
would you create your MDT-%Element via sets or variables? I'm half-tempted to put them in some sort of include and call them up through variable settings.

[Motenten]

Both. Something like:

MagicDefense = MDT-%Element, or None

equip set=$MagicDefense

I created all the MDT-elements as blank sets and put them in an include so that I don't have to fully define them for every job. That way <equip>ing them won't cause an error if I haven't redefined it locally.

[Caylene]

Both. Something like:

MagicDefense = MDT-%Element, or None

equip set=$MagicDefense

I created all the MDT-elements as blank sets and put them in an include so that I don't have to fully define them for every job. That way <equip>ing them won't cause an error if I haven't redefined it locally.

Thank you, this helps.

[|Heretic|]

Trying to figure out where I went wrong or what I'm missing in my DRK xml. I want a rule that upon engaging equips 1) Aftermath set (if active) and 2) Souleater set (if active). I no longer seem to swap into any gearset when I engage/disengage.

<!-- TP Rules -->
		<if status="engaged">
			<if BuffActive="Aftermath">
				<if BuffActive="Souleater">
					<action type="equip" when="engaged" set="SouleaterAftermath" />
				</if>
				<else>
					<action type="equip" when="engaged" set="TPAftermath" />
				</else>
			</if>
			<else>
				<if BuffActive="Souleater">
					<action type="equip" when="engaged" set="Souleater" />
				</if>
				<else>
					<action type="equip" when="engaged" set="TP" />
				</else>
			</else>
		</if>

Whole thing if needed:
http://pastebin.com/S6EWdSsu

[Yugl]

Oh, while we're asking for spellcast wishlist.

- Duration variables
- Ability to read recast

Doable?

[Caylene]

If variables aren't working, the first thing to check is to see what Spellcast evaluates the variable as. Add the following somewhere in the spellcast and trigger the output:

<addtochat>Var: $staff-%spellelement</addtochat>

If you end up with something odd, you can start figuring out where the problem is. For example, misspelled %spellelement, a variable named $staff (so you end up with ThisOtherStaffFire or something similar), or whatever.

Ok so...

I get this:

"Var: Light Staff-Light-Wind-Wind-Light-Light-Water-Light-Light-Earth-Wind-Light-Light-Dark"

Well, you get the idea.

Back to the drawing board.

[Yugl]

Trigger Spell             Motenten                 Yugl
Shackeled Fists           WS Distance              WS Distance
Vulcan Shot               TP/Idle Mode             TP/Idle Mode
Carnal Nightmare          ???                      Full Evasion
Grim Halo                 Refresh                  Refresh
Aegis Schism              MDT                      MDT
Netherspikes              PDT                      PDT
Foxfire                   Movement                 Movement
Barbed Crescent           Killswitch               ???
Dancing Chains            Aftercast                Aftercast
Banishga V                ???                      ???
Poisonga IV               MeleeMode                TP-Mode
Poisonga V                WSMode                   WS-Mode
Diaga IV                  ???                      ???
Diaga V                   ??? (Neutral Element?)   ???
Bio V                     Dark Resist              Dark Resist
Dia V                     Physical DEF type        ???
Poison V                  TPMode                   ACC
Banish V                  Light Resist             Light Resist
Elementga V               Element Resist           Element Resist
Banishga IV               ???                      ???
Poisonga III              ???                      ???
Diaga III                 ???                      ???
Dia IV                    ???                      ???
Poison IV                 Tank Mode                EVA
Scop's Operetta           ???                      Class Specific
Puppet's Operetta         ???                      Class Specific
Herb Pastoral             ???                      Class Specific
Shining Fantasia          ???                      Class Specific
Goblin Gavotte            ???                      Class Specific
Tranquility               ???                      Class Specific
Equanimity                ???                      Class Specific

Undetermined Triggers
Magic Accuracy
Cure type
Dire Cast
Quick Resist
Change Utsusemi Midcast

This list seems to be what we have so far. As you can see, there is a bit of work to do. We should look to standardize some terms so that people aren't running around with a Yugl-Motenten dictionary on stuff. Noticeably, we need a term for TPMode and MeleeMode since we use the same term (TPMode) in different ways. I have a list of stuff we've talked about/resolved/need to resolve, but I need to format that better so that it's easy to look at.

[Caylene]

Would a custom dictionary for FFXI be helpful? I've got one that I created- at the moment it's English only though.

ETA: I should have followed that thought all the way through- I meant for writing SC in general, I have a custom dictionary that will check the spelling of my gear to catch any errors.

Also: Is there a way to set your code to equip a piece of armor if the coded piece isn't in your inventory? Baseset doesn't work the way I thought it did, apparently...

TYSM!

[Yugl]

http://wiki.windower.net/plugins/spellcast

^?

And spellcast doesn't interact with your inventory.

[Radec]

Is there a way to set your code to equip a piece of armor if the coded piece isn't in your inventory?

It can (sorta) be done, but requires 2 equip timings, so either a precast-midcast or a midcast-/wait 1.1 type of thing

time A: equip alternative item
time B: equip main item

If main item isn't there, alt item stays on.

This isn't good for Precast/JA/Fastcasting stuff, but might be useful for your case.

[Caylene]

http://wiki.windower.net/plugins/spellcast

^?

And spellcast doesn't interact with your inventory.

I meant more to help with the actual coding, unless there's something that already checks your gear spelling for errors?

[Khamsin]

Oh, while we're asking for spellcast wishlist.

- Duration variables
- Ability to read recast

Doable?

Based on the way it works, I don't think spellcast really should be doing things like reading the current recast timer and such. It'd make more sense to have the ability to do time arithmetic within spellcast, OR allow autoexec to have an event based on a time difference, e.g. creating a runonce autoexec event for timediff_20 that will trigger 20 game-minutes after it was created.

It'd also be nice to allow autoexec to read server-generated log messages, not just chat. So something can happen when it sees "Player's Whatever Effect wears off."

Spellcast + autoexec make a powerful combination, and certain tweaks suggested for spellcast should really be done with autoexec instead.

[Yugl]

If there's some sort of technicality that makes spellcast unable to read recast (Or requires invasive methods to do so), then I'm all for what you said. Durations are already within resources, but there's no way to access them.