Spellcast Help Thread (Link your XML using Pastebin.com for help!)

**Yugl** · 2012-01-22 07:43

<if EquipAmmo="Omph Bullet">
<cancelspell />
<addtochat>NOPE</addtochat>
<return />
</if>

^ That doesn't work?

To remove gear, it's <ammo /> or <ammo></ammo>

**swan** · 2012-01-22 15:19

Decided to take a shot at Yugl's SC for my mnk, never used trigger spells etc to change variables always just used rules/macro's with grp changes etc.

Anyway few thigns i never run into before, and was hopign for some assistance.

1st of all what does != mean?

another thing im confused about is, using the trigger spells seems ok, except you have to toggle through them to get to the right one?

for me to immediately equip my PDT set atm as well as swap my TP set to PDT i use a 2 line macro
/console sc group PDT
/console sc set PDTEngaged

I guess what I'm trying to say is have i missed something or do you have to toggle through your different tp sets using your bind key/trigger spell to select whether u want PDT MDT or your normal TP set?

Thanks
Swan

**Radec** · 2012-01-22 19:46

Originally Posted by Yugl

To remove gear, it's <ammo /> or <ammo></ammo>

<slot>remove</slot> - <slot/> just tells it to do nothing with the slot.

Aemora: If you can't use equipslot="----" or <slot>remove</slot>, are you perhaps on an older verison of spellcast?

**Sithel** · 2012-01-23 04:26

Originally Posted by swan

another thing im confused about is, using the trigger spells seems ok, except you have to toggle through them to get to the right one?

for me to immediately equip my PDT set atm as well as swap my TP set to PDT i use a 2 line macro
/console sc group PDT
/console sc set PDTEngaged

I guess what I'm trying to say is have i missed something or do you have to toggle through your different tp sets using your bind key/trigger spell to select whether u want PDT MDT or your normal TP set?

Thanks
Swan

With his xml, PDT idle is just mace a macro /ja Barbed Crescent

And toggle through TP sets which include haste,acc,pdt ect would be a macro /ma Poison 5

WS sets toggle make a macro /ma Poisonga 5

Idle macro /ja Vulcan Shot

Distance macro /ja Shackled Fists

Just read through the xml for the rest you'll see the pattern

**swan** · 2012-01-23 07:33

Thanks for the help, I'd actually managed to speak to yugl about it and think I got it all, but ty for you help much appreciated also sorry just noticed this isn't the help thread

Edit: nvm this isn't he help thread guess my post was moved
Swan

**Esvedium** · 2012-01-23 10:28

Originally Posted by Radec

<slot>remove</slot> - <slot/> just tells it to do nothing with the slot.

Aemora: If you can't use equipslot="----" or <slot>remove</slot>, are you perhaps on an older verison of spellcast?

All hopped up on vicodin after a surgery, but you're saying that <ammo>remove</ammo> works on the current version of spellcast, yes? Because I swear that works for my COR xml.

**Radec** · 2012-01-23 13:29

Originally Posted by Esvedium

All hopped up on vicodin after a surgery, but you're saying that <ammo>remove</ammo> works on the current version of spellcast, yes? Because I swear that works for my COR xml.

Yes, <ammo>remove</ammo> will empty the slot in the current verison.

**Aemora** · 2012-01-23 15:09

Tried a variety of ways, I was running 2.4.4, so I downloaded 2.4.5, and still no success.

Here's a quick thing I made to see if it will trigger:

Code:

<spellcast>
	<rules>
		<if spell="Thunder V">
			<cancelspell />
			<body>remove</body>
			<addtochat>NOPE</addtochat>
		</if>
	</rules>
</spellcast>

Made this to test the remove rule out, and it just ain't working for me. Running 2.4.5. I don't know why :/ The addtochat is working, cuz everytime I load this and cast Thunder 5, I get a NOPE message, but the remove function ain't working.

HALP :/

**Radec** · 2012-01-23 15:24

Code:

<equip when="all"><body>remove</body></equip>

Any equip needs to be within <equip>....</equip>

**Yugl** · 2012-01-23 17:21

Attention SC editors: Can you understand this fast cast code? The sets/a few variables are missing, but the idea should be easy to understand. I mainly ask because I want to write leave a FC code that is possible for future SC editors to update should SE introduce new shit. If not, I'll see what sacrifices I can make, but this is the most inclusive and flexible code thus far

http://pastebin.com/PLZcu5vw

Brace yourself.

**Motenten** · 2012-01-23 20:10

Is code like this:

Code:

<var cmd="setcalc Type_Minimum_CTR (1 - (%Type_Trait_CTR))" />

Supposed to be:

Code:

<var cmd="setcalc Type_Minimum_CTR (1 - ($%Type_Trait_CTR))" />

?

Lots of other minor typos, but can be worked out later.

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Code:

        <if type="WhiteMagic|BlackMagic">
            <if advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_Minimum_CTR)*(Type_Minimum_CTR)*(Skill_Minimum_CTR)*(Element_Minimum_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Minimum_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Minimum_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When precast" />
            </if>
            <elseif advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_1_Total_CTR)*(Type_Minimum_CTR)*(Skill_Minimum_CTR)*(Element_Minimum_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Minimum_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Minimum_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
            </elseif>
            <elseif advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_2_Total_CTR)*(Type_Minimum_CTR)*(Skill_Minimum_CTR)*(Element_Minimum_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Minimum_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Minimum_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Medium" />
            </elseif>
            <elseif advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_2_Total_CTR)*(Type_Total_CTR)*(Skill_Minimum_CTR)*(Element_Minimum_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Minimum_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Minimum_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum" />
            </elseif>
            <elseif advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_2_Total_CTR)*(Type_Total_CTR)*(Skill_Total_CTR)*(Element_Minimum_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Minimum_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Minimum_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR" />
            </elseif>
            <elseif advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_2_Total_CTR)*(Type_Total_CTR)*(Skill_Total_CTR)*(Element_Total_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Minimum_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Minimum_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR|%Skill_CTR" />
            </elseif>
            <elseif advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_2_Total_CTR)*(Type_Total_CTR)*(Skill_Total_CTR)*(Element_Total_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Total_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Minimum_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR|%Skill_CTR|%SpellElement_CTR" />
            </elseif>
            <elseif advanced='(Instant_Cast_CTR)*(Addle_Minimum_CTR)*($Fast_Cast_2_Total_CTR)*(Type_Total_CTR)*(Skill_Total_CTR)*(Element_Total_CTR)*($$Book_Arts_Total_CTR)*(Spell_Name_Total_CTR) &lt; (1.5/%Castime)'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR|%Skill_CTR|%SpellElement_CTR|$Book_Arts_CTR" />
            </elseif>
            <else>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR|%Skill_CTR|%SpellElement_CTR|$Book_Arts_CTR|%Spell_CTR" />
            </else>
        </if>

Seems overly verbose. Could be simplified.

Example: Every single IF check compares against (1.5/%Castime). There's no reason to recalculate that so many times.

Code:

<var cmd="setcalc CompareCastTime 1.5/%Casttime" />

Am also not really sure of how you derived that value. Is the purpose to only use enough fast cast to get cast times below 1.5 seconds? That seems like a rather high threshhold. I'd expect you'd want it to be less than 1 second, though going conservatively, probably not less than 0.8. Maybe have a variable set to define that target threshhold.

Most variables are switching Minimum to Total. Sequential shifts allow for progressive comparisons. This makes lots of indents, but greatly reduces the number of computations.

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This also makes it easier to see what change is being made at each stage of this long comparison run.

Blue magic, ninjutsu and summoning magic can all be condensed into the WhiteMagic/BlackMagic comparison set by just having Skill_*_CTR and $Book_*_CTR set to 1 for the appropriate skill types.

Or if you prefer, perhaps even include the brd-uniques in the grand original calculation (also set to 1 for anything other than brd stuff), and then have an extra <elseif> filter, such as:

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Code:

    ...

    <var cmd="setcalc CompareTimeReduction CompareTimeReduction * $Element_Total_CTR / $Element_Minimum_CTR" />
    <if advanced='$CompareTimeReduction &lt; $CompareCastTime'>
        <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
        <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum" />
    </if>
    <elseif type="WhiteMagic|BlackMagic">
        <var cmd="setcalc CompareTimeReduction CompareTimeReduction * $Skill_Total_CTR / $Skill_Minimum_CTR" />
        <if advanced='$CompareTimeReduction &lt; $CompareCastTime'>
            <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
            <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum" />
        </if>
        <else>
            <var cmd="setcalc CompareTimeReduction CompareTimeReduction * $$Book_Arts_Total_CTR / $$Book_Arts_Minimum_CTR" />
            <if advanced='$CompareTimeReduction &lt; $CompareCastTime'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum" />
            </if>
            <else>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR|%Skill_CTR|%SpellElement_CTR|$Book_Arts_CTR" />
            </else>
        </else>
    </elseif>
    <elseif type="BardSong">
        <var cmd="setcalc CompareTimeReduction CompareTimeReduction * $Nightingale_Total_CTR / $Nightingale_Minimum_CTR" />
        <if advanced='$CompareTimeReduction &lt; $CompareCastTime'>
            <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
            <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum" />
        </if>
        <else>
            <var cmd="setcalc CompareTimeReduction CompareTimeReduction * $Troubadour_Total_CTR / $Troubadour_Minimum_CTR" />
            <if advanced='$CompareTimeReduction &lt; $CompareCastTime'>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum" />
            </if>
            <else>
                <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
                <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR|%Skill_CTR|%SpellElement_CTR|%Spell_CTR|Nightingale_CTR|Troubadour_CTR" />
            </else>
        </else>
    </elseif>
    <else>
        <var cmd="set Cast_When midcast" />
        <equip when="precast" set="Fast_Cast_Maximum|%Type_CTR|%Skill_CTR|%SpellElement_CTR|%Spell_CTR" />
    </else>

Note: I didn't go back and fix all the sets being equipped to match the comparison.

Basically, all value switches apply to all spell types, except Skill and Book_Arts which only apply to white/black magic, and Troubadour/Nightingale which only apply to bard songs. This greatly reduces the number of redundant comparisons.

**Yugl** · 2012-01-23 22:27

I'll look over this in detail again (Specifically, the condense/grand+brd approach), but I really like that (Comparison)*(Total/Minimum) approach. Classy math maneuver there. Does putting calculations in variables (EX: 1.5/Castime) reduce the work SC has to do? The 1.5 value I derived empirically while testing to see the minimum cast time I could get away with while at 1) Jeuno 2) Abyssea-Altepa dolls. This was on my older laptop which had much worse specs than my current laptop. Since I'm writing this for public use, I want people with worse specs to enjoy the fast cast rule. So, if anyone wants to offer their services and has a crappy laptop (2008ish build?), I could use someone to test the minimum post-CTR cast time needed. My original tests used AF3+2 RDM gear.

**Wooly** · 2012-01-23 23:51

Does Spellcast have the same problem equipping identical rings in both left/right ring slots that FFXI has? I've been opening up the equipment menu lately during midcast for nukes to see if my Spellcast is working right, and I'm noticing only the left Icesoul ring is being equipped the vast majority of the time. On rare occassions, it seems to work. I also notice the same thing for cures -- often only the left Aquasoul rings gets equipped.

If so, is there a workaround?

**Radec** · 2012-01-23 23:54

Originally Posted by Wooly

Does Spellcast have the same problem equipping identical rings in both left/right ring slots that FFXI has? I've been opening up the equipment menu lately during midcast for nukes to see if my Spellcast is working right, and I'm noticing only the left Icesoul ring is being equipped the vast majority of the time. On rare occassions, it seems to work. I also notice the same thing for cures -- often only the left Aquasoul rings gets equipped.

If so, is there a workaround?

Get different rings is the best way, SC has the same problem.

What helps, but doesn't entirely solve it - make sure you never equip 1 of the rings but not the other. Rings either Icesoul/Icesoul or Not_Icesoul/Not_Icesoul - never Icesoul/Not_Icesoul.

**Wooly** · 2012-01-24 01:12

Originally Posted by Radec

Get different rings is the best way, SC has the same problem.

What helps, but doesn't entirely solve it - make sure you never equip 1 of the rings but not the other. Rings either Icesoul/Icesoul or Not_Icesoul/Not_Icesoul - never Icesoul/Not_Icesoul.

Thanks for the tip. That's what I'd been doing, but was still running into the problem. What's odd to me is that it seems to work consistently for weaponskill swaps (i.e. Aquasoul x2 while playing around with Requiescat on mule).

I ended up putting the <rring> swap (the one midcast was failing to swap) into the appropriate precast set, and it seems to be an ok workaround.

**Aemora** · 2012-01-24 10:36

Originally Posted by Radec

Code:

<equip when="all"><body>remove</body></equip>

Any equip needs to be within <equip>....</equip>

Thank you Radec, master of spellcast and all things pertaining it! I will give this a shot later, once I try to make heads and tails of my thesis...

**swan** · 2012-01-24 13:05

Been using this SC (ill post link below) now for a few days all works ok expect my

Impetusset and my Impetus_ws_set aswell as my Counterstanceset

wondering if any1 might spot why, its basically an edited Yugl_Mnkv2 SC MInor adjustments are the Perfectcounterset was changed to counterstanceset.

And the Impetus_ws_set was added.

So my problem is when engaged with impetus up it doesnt equip my Impetusset over my normal Tp set same with my counterstanceset.

Same thing for WS is wont equip my Impetus_ws_set over my normal Ws set when impetus is up.

Any help wud be appreciated

Edit: forgot to add the link to SC lol http://pastebin.com/tbPtu0aU

thank swan

**Aemora** · 2012-01-24 13:42

Ok, fixed the damned problem. It was the bullet itself. Note to others: Don't test with an Orichalcum Bullet, when the only way it'll work is when it's "Orichalc. Bullet". Very fucking confusing.

Anyway, works fine now. This is the code I put at the top of the file and it stops before anything below triggers.

Code:

<if commandprefix="/range|/ra|/weaponskill|/ws">
	<if EquipAmmo="Omphalos Bullet">
		<cancelspell />
		<equip when="all"><ammo>remove</ammo></equip>
		<addtochat>Trying to shoot Omphalos Bullet. Action cancelled. CLOSE CALL, AEMO!</addtochat>
		<return />
	</if>
</if>

Pretty sure it's 100% unfuckupable, which is what I was after.

**Esvedium** · 2012-01-24 15:40

AFAIK, you don't need both /ws and /weaponskill in the "commandprefix", as spellcast converts all shortened prefixes (/ja, /ma, etc) to the full long version (/jobability, /magic, etc).

Also, I have my rule in my <if commandprefix="/range"> and <if commandprefix="/weaponskill"> at the top of those rules, just to keep it better... organized, for lack of a better word, unless you have the rest of both your /range and /weaponskill rules in that <if...>

**Obsidian** · 2012-01-25 14:20

First time really messing around with Spellcast, so forgive my likely novice issue, but I can't get my MNK xml to work. It loads, and it's loaded (verified with $Stance returning the current and /sc set Usukane equiping my Usukane stuff), but no gear gets swapped whenever I use a JA/weaponskill/cast a spell. Here's the XML.

Perhaps related; when I load Spellcast, it loads the plugin, then in the console I get "CRITICAL ERROR: FAILED TO FIND lslnCombat," and then it autoloads my MNK xml.

Any help is appreciated.

Edit: Nevermind. Updating my spellcast.dll fixed the problem.

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